• dustyData@lemmy.world
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    Find an archived version or just don’t post paywalled articles. It’s true that most people don’t read the article before commenting and just go by the headline. But we can’t have discussion the argument of the article if we can’t read it.

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      Go with 12ft dot io. Works with this one alright. I don’t think it worked with the Nyt tho.

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        Not at all as far as I’m aware. There’s no mention of paywalled content, or archive links, anywhere in the TOS or in any other guideline or policy. I’d guess that it would be against rules to post an article or content that must be explicitly purchased, with a subscription, for example. As it would count as linking to piracy. But in this specific case, where the article is walled by making an account, it’s fine in my opinion. It’s a gray area in the worst case. This is why most communities encourage posters to post a freely available article when posting news. And if it’s something inaccessible without paying for it, just don’t post it at all, or make a text post or post an article about the thing. I mean, piped links are encouraged, and that’s a similar thing.

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          It was an announcement a few months back, iirc. They also told people to stop posting entire articles in the comments and post itself (which I used to do)

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            An announcement where, by whom?

            Just scrolled all the way the whole last years of the lemmyworld announcements community and there’s nothing on it.

            Are you sure you’re not confusing a specific community policy with the instance policy? I can see how posting an entire article in the post body or comment could be problematic, as it could be misconstrued as copyright infringement. But removing ads and circumventing user data mining is an entirely different ethics discussion.

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              Just chiming in to say that I remember seeing a .world mod telling us not to post full articles in the post or comments. The thing is, that mod had his account banned for COVID misinformation. Which, if I’m correct, is why you can’t find any mention of the rule change?

              the rule might not matter anymore tbh

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                A mod is not an Admin. I’m a mod of a community. That doesn’t mean that what I say applies instance wide. My positions are categorically and exclusively my own, and not the position of lemmy.world’s owners and administrators. This is why rules are usually written in third places, not in mod comments. If it’s not on an official document, it’s not official policy.

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                  Ah, so then I think it was on a worldnews or news community. Which makes my previous comment stupid, lol. Thank you for the explanation.

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    Imagine neurolink dropping support for your device and now you have eWaste in your brain, just like the company, which made Eyes for disabled people and then went bankrupt leaving customers with eWaste in their eye holes

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      Yep. This stuff must be open source. The owner should be the actual owner, with full administration rights, and source and schematic.

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      I don’t know what components exist on the neuralink boards, but i do know that capacitors are pretty common and tend to leak after a couple decades…

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        There are many different types of capacitors, most of which don’t contain any liquid at all (including the most common type - ceramic capacitors).

        But in general, you would use specially rated components and materials if you need them to last decades - not the cheapest most basic parts you can find.

        Other types of implanted devices have dealt with the same things decades ago.

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          But in general, you would use specially rated components and materials if you need them to last decades - not the cheapest most basic parts you can find.

          Keep in mind this is modern tech and an Elon-helmed corpo we’re talking about lol. Do decades-lasting components bump stock shares THIS quarter? I point to all the bits falling off of Teslas lately.

          lol God help us all…

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            Pretty sure these things need to be certified and there are laws about what parts you are and are not allowed to use.

            Not saying highly regulated industries don’t ever have problems (look at Boeing), but it’s not like they can just arbitrarily decide to cut costs wherever.

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        Yes, capacitors have a lifetime which decreases if they experience heat.

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    After reading the article it makes me think how much of human advancement has been in the service of vice. Home video recorders took off when home video porn became available. Both high speed NASCAR auto racing and high performance jet boats owe their existence to illegal liquor and cigarette smuggling. The internet is another beneficiary of ubiquitous porn.

    While fraught with ethical questions, there’s a vice based path for Neuralink link BCI technology: Replacement for narcotics.

    Instead of the difficult task of replacing sight, motor function, or other complicated bi-directional systems, how hard would it be to simply electrically stimulate dopamine release in the brain? At its extreme, you press a button and you feel like you’ve taken a huge dose of cocaine or heroin except without all of the nasty cardiac or digestive system impacts. Also, the effects stop in the matter of minutes, and at the command of the user. No more driving while intoxicated. You just turn off the electrical current simulating the intoxicant and you have your full facilities available to you.

    Should these companies be developing their technology as drug and alcohol addiction recovery systems?

    This path would be without problems of its own. This technology itself would be crazy crazy additive! This is explore in fiction including by Sci-Fi author Larry Niven. He calls his a droud, and describes some of the downsides of a society that could choose to feel good whenever they want with no monetary cost or limits

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      Instead of the difficult task of replacing sight, motor function, or other complicated bi-directional systems, how hard would it be to simply electrically stimulate dopamine release in the brain? At its extreme, you press a button and you feel like you’ve taken a huge dose of cocaine or heroin

      Easy. Been done lots of times with rats and I imagine that must be hard with those tiny brains. Brain surgery on humans must be much easier, but they are not allowed to press their own buttons. You know, ethics.

      Rats will perform lever-pressing at rates of several thousand responses per hour for days in exchange for direct electrical stimulation of the lateral hypothalamus. Multiple studies have demonstrated that rats will perform reinforced behaviors at the exclusion of all other behaviors. Experiments have shown rats will forgo food to the point of starvation in exchange for brain stimulation or intravenous cocaine when both food and stimulation are offered concurrently for a limited time each day. Rats will also cross electrified grids to press a lever, and they are willing to withstand higher levels of shock to obtain electrical stimulation than to obtain food.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_stimulation_reward

      The lesson here is that only the pursuit of porn drives ethical, sustainable progress.

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        I think you have it backwards, human brains are bigger and thus more complicated, so I think much more complicated to do the same things as in mice. Thats why we “practice” on mice

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          Elephants have much bigger brains than humans. That doesn’t necessarily mean they are more complicated. Maybe they are, but elephants are obviously not able to do, intellectually, nearly as much as humans. Generally, brain size scales with body size. Humans are unusual in that we have brains that are much too big for our bodies.

          Structurally, our brains are like those of other mammals. What makes them too big for our bodies is the cerebral cortex. Now, I don’t want to mislead anyone by appearing too confident. So let me say that this was pretty much the extent of my knowledge on comparative brain anatomy. I believe that the structures one is aiming for here, are simply larger in larger animals. Besides, when operating on a human, you can always ask them how they feel when you apply a current to a part of their brain to make sure you got the right bit. Standard practice, actually.

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      What you readily described has, as a matter of fact, applications in medicine in thr field of epylexia ande depression treatements, currently in the form of complex electrical apparatus linked to specific areas of the brain. It is however quite an impactful surgical operation, and it requires a diagnosis for a hard to treat series of symptoms that cannot be dealt with otherwise. It is not exactly that kind of stimulation, more like a “turn on - off” certain neural pathways via electrostimulation, but it is a thing.

      would neuarlink do that?

      I don’t think so as it is mostly a general purpose interface that has its main purpose in human - implant (machine) interaction. But there is a way to stimulate a specific nerve in such a way that you can turn into the personification of horniness itself, I haven’t heard of that in a while tho.

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            That’s the 1984 version, perhaps.

            I’d posit the Brave New World version is

            “It keeps buzzing your brain into doing your stupid task until the 30 hour shift is up, but don’t worry, you get sweet dopamine hits and painkillers the whole time and aren’t sure why this is so enjoyable! The pleasure-task curve is perfectly computed. You’re not even sure how long it’s been. There’s a momentary sadness when you witness a fellow worker just convulse and drop like a sack of rocks. This work feels so important though! You can understand their dedication.”

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      Porn and the military are sadly the driving force of progress… also, the only places still kept clean from adds.

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    Enshittification of stuff wired into your brain is a bit terrifying.

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      For the first half of the first sentence of your post, I thought you were taking about Neuralink.