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Just more AAA bullshit…
And I’m sure a ton of gamers who will reward this behavior too.
The gold edition of Star Wars Outlaws gets you three days of early access, ship and speeder cosmetics, and access to the “Season Pass.” That’s “two DLCs that will release after launch”, plus a single mission that’s exclusive to it for some baffling reason.
The reason isn’t baffling. The reason is they are using FOMO to encourage people to spend extra money on preorders so they don’t feel like they missed out on something they couldn’t get otherwise.
Abusing people’s fear of missing out is not baffling, but it is malicious.
Offering preorders for DLC before a main game is released is predatory
It’s ubisoft: the game will go on sale for $4 in less than a year.
Watched the trailer and got pretty excited for the game until I saw Ubisoft at the end. Guess I’ll wait for the next SW game. Eclipse? Whatever happened with that one.
And shut down and made unplayable forever three months later.
Star Wars Outlaws’ $110 and $130 editions
Tbh I hadn’t read about these at all yet, and I think I know all I need to know.
I wish more gamers would realise how much power a boycott can have. We’re like junkies just waiting to buy the next shot no matter how shitty it will be. My dipping point was Diablo 4. Never again! Vote with your wallet friends! Also 🏴☠️
My dipping point was Diablo 4.
Were you a blizzard or diablo fan before then? Curious why d4 was the tipping point when D3 was potentially worse at launch, with the added insult of drops being weighted to encourage/require the use of the Real Money Auction House to make any real endgame progression. You would get more drops for other characters and have to trade for stuff you could actually use, with blizzard taking a commission on each transaction.
Then there were things like Warcraft 3 Reforged, hearthstone monetization, Overwatch 2, etc.
Diablo 4 was the first Diablo I actually paid for lol. But it wasn’t only D4 that was the tipping point for me. Cities Skylines 2 was also a big, big disappointment. And I pre ordered the key, so no refund for me :/
By the time I bought D3, with the release of the expansion (and armed with the knowledge that I should do so by prior experience with D2 LOD and even D1 Hellfire), it had actually been made into a half decent game. The true endgame kind of sucks, but it sucked in D2 as well, and up to that point I got a good 200ish hours out of it that I didn’t regret.
D4 is just not good though. It’s a skeleton of a game and the bones are stale. Diablo and Overwatch were the only things I was still holding out any hope for Blizzard for and they pretty much ruined both those franchises. So I won’t be buying Actiblizz products anymore. They’ve made their point.
What if the new expansion is considered really good? Would you change your mind and buy it?
Potentially. But probably not at this point. They’d have to do such a huge about-face as to be a completely different game.
For me, i was burned by Diablo 3 (at launch), but I caved on D4 since the aesthetic did look more inline with what I wanted from the series, and a lot of time has passed, so I was hoping they had learned from D3… but no. So I also feel that D4 was the real dipping point for me, where it’s no longer an isolated incident.
I know people can chime in with the many times I should have learned this before D4, but I mostly didn’t actually buy those games. Plus, I already know it was dumb to buy D4, in retrospect, I just really love ARPGs and D2 (which they did manage to Resurrect really nicely).
Speaking of AAA Star Wars games, did Jedi Survivor ever get fixed on PC? Last time I played, it turned into a stuttering mess 2 hours in.
Nope. I was able to get most of the way through it, but when other games came out I decided to wait for patches that fix survivors while I played the others. The patches never came, and now I’ve moved on. Horizon Forbidden West is fantastic, though.
Hello! I tried playing Horizon Zero Dawn on both the PS4 Pro and PC, and just never got into it because (to me) the combat was not very good at all. I love the look of the game, and I assume the premise is good, but what about it do you like? I want to give it another go, but I don’t want to waste my time either, so I am really just wanting to hear a different perspective.
The combat never really becomes anything special, but it’s not bad and does open up more towards the middle of the game when you have more weapons available, but if you want to just use one bow and play on the easiest setting, you can, and you won’t have any problems. What got me hooked on the game was the story. I love sci-fi, and this one hit all of the right buttons for me. I just finished up my second playthrough before Forbidden West dropped and I still teared up at the end. Just a really phenomenal story, and very well told. So far Forbidden West is even better.
Alright. I think I understand. I’ll try it again since I have it on Steam and since you gave a good enough reason to try it, as I am always interested in good narratives.
Thank you! 😁
I played through it mostly fine about 2 months ago. My PC is pretty beefy, and I had random lock ups (from what I know of Helldivers on AMD cards now, I’m going to guess it was the Global Illumination setting being enabled), but I was able to put in good 3 and 4 hr sessions.
Amd processor and Nvidia video card, I don’t have problems with either game (played through both Jedi Survivor games recently).
Likely less of a hardware thing and more of a, “made with a ten year old engine that was discontinued seven years ago.”
Originally I was gonna say Unreal Engine 5 only has a smallish performance hit when Lumen Global Illumination is enabled, but when I looked up the helldivers engine, they outright cite its discontinuing for, “not being able to compete against UE and Unity.”
Edit: the engine is Autodesk Stingray, since I failed to name it.
Edit 2: apparently Helldivers 2 was in production since before Stingray was discontinued, but still, why’d they try to put GI in such an old engine? Did nobody consider the stress a new lighting model would apply to an engine that barely existed before the idea of GI?
I’ve got a 5800x3d with 7900xt on Arch Linux (btw) running KDE Plasma in Wayland. The only 2 games I’ve had lock up my system in the last year since I’ve owned the video card is Jedi Survivor and Helldivers 2, so my assumption is that they share some kind of bad call to the card somewhere.
And yeah, as far as the stingray shit goes, you’re not the first person to question their commitment to stick with it.
Ah thats the AAAA A
There seems to be a widely held belief by corporations that star wars fans are suckers. Prove them wrong.
Sit back and watch this crap make record profits. It’s not Star Wars fans. It’s The Gamers™ who will pay anything for anything as long as it’s a videogame, like crackheads. The people who think this is outrageous weren’t going to buy it anyway, and those who are going to buy it will do so no matter the backlash. The overlap of people who wanted this game bad enough to care but also have the principles and values to consider the financial strategies abusive and complain about it is a very slim band of people. They will make headlines, sure, but they won’t move the balance enough to even tickle Ubisoft’s wallet.
This has happened before, this will happen again.
What will stop them from claiming record numbers even if no one buys? And if a few people buy what stops them from simulating other players using clever AI so the few existing players think it is full? Simulate wait times, upgrade servers to support unexpected server overloads, etc. It’s all about generating fake hype these days to sell stuff.
I don’t buy games that cost more than $50
Hard pass on this nonsense
K-shaped recovery.
If everyone is a little poorer, prices stay still. If everyone is a little richer, prices go up.
If some people get much poorer and some people get much richer… Prices go way up, cuz now there’s only one market segment that matters and it’s gotta pull double duty.
Do yourself a favor and just buy Helldivers 2
Gamers ordered this shit sandwich so dig in
It doesn’t matter. Thousands of people will buy it anyway.