I thought the woman handing me this was going to ask for help reaching something, but she was handing this out to everyone.

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    Did they just photocopy a flyer that was photocopied by someone else? Because this looks like it was about 15 steps from the original printing. Also, why hand these out now?

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    Have they been subject to medium to long term safety testing on humans?

    Yes. For over two years now. Using a population of hundreds of millions of people and a control population of people who xerox misinformation and hand it out to strangers in grocery stores.

    News flash: the vaccinated ones are doing way better.

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      As an addendum, the idea that a vaccine can produce side effects years down the line is a myth. A vaccine is a one-time payload - if any side effects are going to crop up, they will inevitably be in the few weeks following vaccination as your body processes it. After that, if nothing has gone awry, you’re good.

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        My 5G mobile coverage improves about 7 days after my annual shot.

        I figure by 2027 I can ditch my home router.

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          I often think back and wonder about the 5G = COVID people on Twitter and r/conspiracy. Where are they now? Do they even feel in the slightest bit silly? Were they even real? So very many questions.

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        As an addendum addendum, I have some news for people worried about long-term effects of encountering only the spike proteins: you’re really going to hate the long-term effects from taking that virus raw.

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      Using a population of hundreds of millions billions

      Billions of people were vaccinated. Hardly anything happened.

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        Did billions of people end up getting the mRNA vaccine? I thought the traditional vaccine was more widely deployed outside the United States.

        In any case, the objection is nonsense. On populations this large, the number of side effects was slightly less than might have been expected at the outset. The researchers did good work.

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      Or, y’know, literal decades (centuries?) by medical professionals

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        For vaccines in general, yes. But kooky people that think this is some kind of trick are worried about it being an mRNA vaccine, which is indeed somewhat new. The idea has been around for about fifty years, but the first human clinical trials were only about a decade ago and COVID was the first large-scale human deployment.

        Now, in fairness, they were almost entirely ready at the time. I would imagine, without COVID, we probably would’ve still seen mRNA vaccines become mainstream already, though maybe last year or this year instead of in 2021. But COVID stepped up the final stages of approval significantly.

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    Funny how surgeons don’t seem to have the problems this flyer describes.
    And I better not open this person’s closet and find a single scarf.

    How anyone can still believe this shit just confounds me.

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      Not funny once you realize all doctors are actually lizard people in human skin suits performing experiments on us. QED sucker!

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    I have a dead uncle because of these nonsense theories he refused to wear a mask, social distance etc. The inevitable happened and he passed from covid within a week. All because of anonymous people on Facebook who I will never meet, and will never suffer the consequences of their actions. Makes me so angry

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      A friends mom was snowboarding with her grandkids the year before covid. His sister, a pharmacist btw, warned their mom off the vaccine. Their mom caught covid and died. The vaccine would likely have saved her life.

      Tens, no likely hundreds of thousands of people surely died due to misinformation and fear mongering.

      Now measles might be making a comeback as well.

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        It’s feel so rare reading all those stories on internet, while my family is crazy alt-right that eat all the communist conspiracies on the internet, except the ones referencing vaccines or climate change. Like every newborn baby on the family is “quarantined” until all vaccines are on (at least the ones from the first 6 months) so everyone’s following the vaccine calendar to mark when the baby’s is going to meet the rest of the family.

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      My friend died before he was able to get a vaccine dose. He was young and fit and healthy, enough so that his death was covered in a local newspaper. He’d have probably have gotten his first vaccine dose if we’d caught COVID a couple weeks later, and that might have been enough to save him. I’ll never know, and maybe he’d have still died, but I’ll always resent people who have/had the choice to be vaccinated but choose not to.

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        No, they’ve got plenty of access. They just don’t want to be exposed to anything that challenges their indoctrination.

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          While that may be true. The filter bubble is also a very real thing.
          Social media sites earn their money by your attention. And try to keep it as long as possible, with all the tricks in the books, and some they invented.
          So when someone belives something. They search about it. And belive they have done research. When they find what the site belive keeps them engaged.

          Want to know more? sorry, been playing to much helldivers 2. ;) https://www.ted.com/playlists/470/how_to_pop_our_filter_bubbles

          The science is not conclusive tho. Perhaps i am in a bubble… messes with the head…

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          Some have medical degrees and will actively ignore anything that doesn’t fit with the Jeebus.

          Religion and capitalism will be the legacy humans leave behind and it’s a shit one

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        Or rather too much access to too many non-credible sources.

        Meaning, we need to remove shit like Twitter from the net already.

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    I’m high risk as I’m immunosuppressed. I’ve had 8 vaccines, shielded for well over a year and always wore a mask. I finally caught COVID last week. There’s not a doubt in my mind that I would have died already if I hadn’t been vaccinated. My oxygen saturation levels just keep dropping - 90% today. I’m going to have to go to hospital ☹️

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    I’d be more annoyed that this person couldn’t even bother me with a more up to date conspiracy.

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        Masks trap CO2 and other gases, impeding the breathing process and killing you slowly

        …apparently at least 3 years slow, we’ll check back in with Cletus and his sisters(?) next spring.

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            Whenever I’m driving and the song on Apple Music pauses to buffer, I pull over and call Bill Gates to ask why the 5g in my vaccine isn’t boosting the signal

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    This is far more than mildly infuriating, this is actively putting peoples lives at risk, it’s enraging and quite scary, and why disabled and other vulnerable people are continuing to be more isolated than ever.

    Fuck this person and the bullshit they spread. I rarely leave the house, but if I did and someone handed me something like this I’d grab the whole pile and set it on fire, casually roll over their feet with my wheelchair on my way, too (E: actually, scratch that, I wouldn’t want to get that close to the disease vector, even with my mask on).

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      I’ve had it twice now and don’t mind getting close, otherwise agreed on all counts. Let’s hide the accelerant fairy juice under your chair, you can be getaway driver with clean hands. Tell me you have a rad van with wheel controls

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    Report her to the store for solicitation. Owners hate that, even if they agree with the sentiment. Can’t scare away the customers.

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      Yeah, Jehovah’s Witnesses know to wait till someone is coming out rather than inside or heading in for this very reason.

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    very blatantly, right in front of her, wipe your hands with sanitizer and then wipe down the flyer …

    EDIT: “Oh, this isn’t for the virus, y’all just nasty.”

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        When that stupid PSA warning came through that conspiracy theorists said would “activate” the vaccine I was in my MAGAt infested office. I fell to the floor and screamed “The vaccine!” as soon as I heard everyone’s phones go off.

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    Are there doctors and scientists recommending people NOT to take it?

    There are morons in every field. We can’t just look at the outliers.

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    Why is it in English but funded by some Spanish speaking organization

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      To make it seem like legitimate. “These other doctors in other countries are speaking out about it, while the establishment in this country is suppressing the “truth””

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        Yeah, but just based on my own prejudices, the antivax community ain’t a huge fan of the Spanish- speaking community.

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          You’d be surprised what they’ll accept as evidence once they find out its coming from “one of the good ones”.

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    Jesus Christ. That’s so much misinformation in just two sheets of paper.