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    Can’t say I’m surprised, but I will reiterate what others have already written. This bill targeting one specific social media company does little more than affirm the government’s ability to single-handedly legislate a business out of existence and maybe provide some short term benefit against foreign influences, which can simply turn their efforts to other platforms.

    If we really cared about protecting Americans, we’d pass consumer protection laws. But we don’t do that. In fact, we have worked to erode these laws for decades.

    This smells more like an excuse to brutally murder the competition for the benefit of homegrown social media. Can’t we call a spade a spade, where there’s money to be made?

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      Question: Do you think china would allow an adverserial nation to control a portion of their social media?

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        No. But I would also hope we’re better than China. There are tools other than a sledgehammer to get social media companies to take action against these bot farms and fake news articles.

        This is certainly an option, but I don’t think it’s a very good one.

        For example, if the algorithm is the problem, let’s require transparency or place restrictions on how algorithms can select content for users.

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          Tiktok offered to do everything people are suggesting with project Texas. It would have made them the most transparent social media company in the US…

          So of course Congress goes pfft… nah. We still want you to sell, we don’t want transparency, we want to control the narrative.

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    I have never visited TikTok and look down on those who use it. However, I think this bill is stupid. It’s reactionary at best. This does nothing at all to address the general malaise predated on the entire world by social media. There should instead be tighter restrictions on social media or even phone use by minors. Why are we preventing minors from harming themselves by smoking or drinking, with pretty strict laws, but it’s totally fucking FINE to let them be psychologically manipulated by corporations with no agenda other than profit? I am so disgusted.

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      I agree about tighter restrictions on social media in general, but this is specifically about tiktok sending personal, material data back to China, a clearly hostile government that has been and is currently committing cyber attacks and espionage against the US and its citizens consistently.

      Tiktok, despite its claims, has been proved to be sending that data to China multiple times since claiming that it has no connection to the Chinese government.

      It isn’t the same as banning Instagram.

      Banning tiktok in countries under attack from China makes sense when it’s been proven that tiktok is sending personal, identifying data to China.

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    Things that matter? No Shit that makes lives better? No Conspiracy bullshit? Let’s go!

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    I used tiktok once in my life when it first blew up and i was younger and after that i decided not to use it anymore. I think everyone using it is selling data to get brainwashed. BUT, i think banning a service because its foreign is a very bad idea and sets a bad example. Tiktok wasnt banned for spying. It was banned because it spies for another country. All social media spies. Thats the thing that should change. If social media companies cant spy that means not only tiktok but facebook and the rest would be also banned.

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      And there it is. The reason they aren’t doing that. Congress is way too invested in American companies which dominate social media and data collection to ever want to put drastic limitations on their lucrative profit strategies. They want an American company to control it so they can invest and profit off of its spying. They don’t care about your privacy; they care about their money and power.

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    Soon to be bought by US interests who will continue to use it to do all the nasty things the CCP is doing now.

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    Ffs! This bullshit is pure demagoguery and corruption!

    It’s an election year, so pretending to care about privacy rights and national security (even though they’re doing fuck all about American companies spying, including for oppressive regimes such as those of Putin, Modi, Netanyahu and MBS) while being “tough on China” is a demagogue jackpot.

    Meanwhile, the ACTUAL reasons are thus:

    1: With Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube heavily censoring criticism of the Israeli apartheid regime, TikTok is the main social media outlet for pro-palestinian and anti-genocide activism. AIPAC and other reliable sources for legal bribes don’t like that.

    2: In the event of a sale, the purchaser is likely to be an oligarch that also bribes American politicians and will do so even more afterwards.

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      I keep seeing this comment- it has nothing to do with the election. They have until January 19th to divest. That’s well past the November election date.

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    This isn’t about data privacy or protection at all. This is a bad look. I think Biden is throwing the election purpose at this point.

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      It’s very easily effective. They’ll have until January 19th (or a 90-day extension if in the process of sale) to divest or the platform is banned in the US.

      The problem is, this bill should be privacy legislation instead.

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          Of course some will. The majority of users will migrate to the next platform. TikTok will eventually disappear in the US without enough US generated content. It’s already happened in over 20 other nations. It’s not a new phenomenon.

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    Nice, so congress can tell any company to get fucked and sell to the highest bidder? So much for free market republicans.

    China will just find another company to buy our data from, because as it turns out, the problem isn’t just TikTok, it’s the fact the it’s legal for companies (foreign and domestic) to sell and exchange our data in the first place. TikTok will still collect the same data, and instead of it going straight to China, it’ll go to a rich white fuck first and they’ll be the ones to sell it to China instead.

    And if the problem is the fact that it’s addictive, well, we have plenty of our own home grown addictions for people to sink their time into. You don’t see congress telling those companies to get sold to a new owner.

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      It’s not just data collection that TikTok grants its owners. It’s also a very affective social manipulation tool, as we’ve seen from every other social media company.