• Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Neoliberals have no comradery and see each other as competition. They look for opportunities to tear each other down instead of supporting each other, thus making their community weaker as a whole.

    Whereas the communists support one another and seek to help build their community as a whole, thus leading to a stronger, more supportive community.

    “The animal species, in which individual struggle has been reduced to its narrowest limits, and the practice of mutual aid has attained the greatest development, are invariably the most numerous, the most prosperous, and the most open to further progress.”- Peter Kropotkin

    TLDR- Sucks that you don’t have our level of solidarity, libs.

    • StalinForTime [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      100%.

      When I’m forced to spend any amount of social time with liberals, especially the more reptilian ones you encounter in academia and managers, especially if they have an explicitly perverted ideology of neoliberalism, and even when they are suposedly best friends, I recognize after not much time that they actually don’t like eachother. They hate eachother. They are jealous, petty and envious. They are all insecure. Their understanding of generosity and sympathy is absolutely reducible to a market relation of exchange for profit in purely inhuman sense, and not even in a progressive social sense of reciprocity. They often dontunderstand that friendship can be good in and of itself, perhaps because they are so alienated and toxic that they’ve forgotten what actual friendship is, and that love is not reducible to material or economic dependence (fantastic scene which shows this in season 3 of Succession, in Italy between Tom and Greg).

      I’ve had many ex-liberal friends become communists just because they were so alienated by their liberal friends that they started hanging out more with communists and were like “oh damn these people actually like eachother and don’t try to demean eachother”.

      Almost all the communists I know who come to hate eachother do so cos of theoretical and practical political beefs.

      • silent_water [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        a coworker explained to me that he was suing his sister in court because he loaned her money for rent and she hadn’t paid him back. I took a full 30 seconds to respond because I couldn’t fathom treating anyone, leave alone family, so transactionally. it’s not like he needed the money - he was just willing to trash his sister’s life because he felt entitled to.

    • FlakesBongler [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      Yeah, this is probably one of the best online communities I’ve ever participated in

      Much better than ceaselessly arguing about which Fallout game was the best

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    I migrated from Lemmy.world just so I can upvote communists bullying liberals lmao

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    i like how they think the fking Chinese or Russian Cyberinfluence division or whatever would spend any time or effort on a fking site that has 1000 active users at most

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      Many years ago, before I had even discovered /r/chapotraphouse, I used to post on /r/geopolitics. Of course as you can imagine the self-important nerds there would accuse people left and right of being Chinese/Russian bots. I once asked why the fuck the MSS or FSB or whatever would spend their time shitposting on a sub with like a thousand users and they claimed that “real international relations experts post here regularly” and then I got banned.

      Worth it.

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        at least when we were on reddit it made at least a little sense, since you were connected to a larger site

        the ironic thing was that user survey on reddit that found the most active city on reddit was some US Airforce base lol

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    They’re conditioned to and glorify negativity, is what it is. I get downvoted for the most innocuous shit when I post or comment in self-proclaimed “liberal” instances.

    I’ve been commenting frequently on y’alls posts since you federated. I’ve not received a single downvote here. Not one.

    They find even-keeledness and agreeability sinister. That says a lot.

    • Parsani [love/loves, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      I’ve not received a single downvote here. Not one.

      side-eye-1 side-eye-2

      …we, uh, disabled downvotes a long time ago… Don’t worry, downvotes are clearly expressed in words or images should that be needed lol. Welcome, though!

        • YoungBelden [any]@hexbear.net
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          michael-laugh

          it basically forces people to explain why they disagree instead of bandwagoning like on places with downvotes

          or at the very least have to PIGPOOPBALLS a person, which gives them a chance to respond, unlike anonymous downvotes

  • Trudge [Comrade]@lemmygrad.ml
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    Liberals disputing vote counts when it doesn’t go their way? I swear I’ve seen this before, but usually in the global south.

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        Like, we all know each other and have an ACTUAL COMMUNITY. Of course we do.

        These liberals see each other as nothing, remember nobody, and build no unique culture of their own. They have no relationships with each other. They don’t get it. We actually like each other. I care about people here you liberal losers.

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            they tend to have walls of Funko Pops and need to tell you about the specific craft beer they sip while writing editorials.

            I hate how this isn’t even a contrived stereotype anymore. Have literally met these types and it’s all they have to justify their “everyone’s experience is unique!” slogans

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          From what I’ve seen, there’s no real difference between lemmy.ml, lemm.ee, and lemmy.world. They’re all the same attempt at trying to be a Reddit clone with the same Reddit defaults as comms. If you merge all three instances together and merge the comms that they share, they would be absolutely zero difference. I guess lemmy.ml is lemm.ee with socialist characteristics while lemmy.world is lemm.ee with fascist characteristics. To me, the biggest difference between those instances is how they see us and whether they are federated with us.

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          How “gated” is that community? As in: How hard would it be to grow into that community? If I migrated to hexbear, would I be treated with suspicion as an outsider, with wary indifference, or welcomed immediately?

          The arguments and descriptors I see here are appealing, but I’ve just recently started using Lemmy and I’ve got this lingering sense of not belonging here (yet), hence ny insecurity.

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            So long as you follow the Hexbear party line you’ll be welcomed with open arms. All you have to do is be on the far left, don’t be sectarian, oppose the US and its propaganda, and love your trans comrades.

            Oh, and don’t mention outdoor cats.

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              Uh… but you did just mention the thing you’re telling me not to mention.
              I prefer indoor cats anyway.

              With “don’t be sectarian” I’m guessing you mean “don’t start fights over the specific flavour of lefty”? By some definition, willingness to bash the fash would also be considered sectarian, hence the question.

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                bashing the fash is table stakes. we ban anything even tangentially pro-fash. don’t be sectarian refers to useless inter-leftist infighting, which we don’t allow.

                the outdoor cats thing is a joke about the very first argument on the website that escalated into a full-blown struggle session (whether vegans stop being vegans if they own outdoor cats - I can’t even pretend to understand the argument).

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                  bashing the fash is table stakes. we ban anything even tangentially pro-fash.

                  Good.

                  don’t be sectarian refers to useless inter-leftist infighting, which we don’t allow.

                  Good

                  the outdoor cats thing is a joke about the very first argument on the website that escalated into a full-blown struggle session (whether vegans stop being vegans if they own outdoor cats - I can’t even pretend to understand the argument).

                  Uh… I think I can, but I’m scared to check the logic. Might fry a circuit or three.

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          @randint@lemm.ee I want you to read this.

          You need to understand that we’ve all been here 3 years already, we know each other, care about each other, have a real community with a real unique culture forged through bonds and laughs and drama and dumb shit. We have an actual community, not just a bunch of people that don’t know each other who press updoot and downdoot and generally just see one another as faceless individuals. We trust each other and genuinely like each other.

          I genuinely hope that you can create something like it and come to care about the other posters around you in time. You should try to. Build something more meaningful than a reddit clone where everyone treats everyone like a bunch of faceless anons, build a real community.

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          Everyone talks about it like it was a big one, but the subreddit was home to so many different nominally leftist tendencies and a lot of the more reactionary elements needed to be purged before this community could become what it is now. Can you imagine this place if it were full of bad faith devil’s advocates in every thread about trans issues?

          So that’s why I view that struggle session as necessary. It served as a honeypot that lured all of the most bigoted users into exposing themselves at once. It’s also a moment in our history that we can point to and say that this issue has already been definitively decided. We support trans people here, end of story, and anyone who doesn’t like it can eat a quick ban without a second thought. On any other forum you’d get endless relitigation and cliques arguing that their buddy’s ban was undeserved, but here? Crab party, baby. No drama, no arguing - just crabs.

          crab-party crab-party crab-party

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          In an ideal world yeah. The silver lining is that it purged a bunch of terfs and people with hidden chud tendencies so we’re probably better off for it.

    • Stylistillusional [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      Tbh, I rarely even have to check someone’s pronouns when commenting because using someone’s hyperlinked username is clearer anyway (which is why there is no other explanation than transphobia to want to deny others the ability to display their preferred pronouns).

      But now pronouns allow me to quickly tell whether someone is a hexbear comrade. trans-hammer-sickle

  • HighOnCopium [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    when we do it it’s because we’re popular

    when they do it it’s totally because of bots, possibly linked to a coordinated cyber attack by insert enemy country