Tired of all this pumpkin and plastic skeleton crap everywhere. Thanks, marketing ghouls rage-cry

What, are we going to start celebrating the 4th of July next? Might as well with the NATO membership I guess

  • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    11 months ago

    I’m not sure how to break this to you, but Halloween is European. Halloween was invented in Ireland, from the pagan celebration of Samhain. Even the practice of dressing up in costume and going from door to door asking for food is recorded as of the 16th century at the latest. Pranks, as well as “Mischief Night,” also dates from the 18th century at the latest. This is all pre-Americanisation. It’s not a continental European tradition but it’s certainly European, not American.

            • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]@hexbear.net
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              11 months ago

              nah christmas rocks I get to see all my family and just enjoy the vibes and goodwill to all men

              plus past a certain age christmas presents become books and socks (this is one of the main reasons to keep reading as an adult)

                • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]@hexbear.net
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  11 months ago

                  because halloween isn’t a holiday anyone celebrates with family gatherings, and the themes of goodwill to all men is a very explicit cultural aspect of christmas when it isn’t for halloween.

                  You don’t even get a day off for halloween because it was never a big deal culturally

      • LeylaLove [she/her, love/loves]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        11 months ago

        It doesn’t, but it’s also the only truly communal American holiday. Christmas creates a lot of good will amongst people, I know my union my Grandma represented adopted HUNDREDS of families for adopt-a-christmas every year. However Christmas is still about. But modern Christmas is still based in celebrating your family, not people as a whole. Adopting other families isn’t essential for a Christmas celebration. Halloween is a day for children to walk around feeling cool in their costumes, get candy, and just have a good day. It’s the one day of year Americans can actually knock on their neighbors door without it being weird. Even St. Patrick’s day, the second most communal holiday in America, is entirely based around parades and not homes.

        On one hand, I don’t think Halloween would mean much to nations with closer communal ties. I get why other nations don’t understand why America loves Halloween so much. On the other hand, Halloween’s cultural significance of being the only inherently community building holiday in America makes it a more worthy holiday than many others. With how alienated people are becoming from each other, I think Halloween is a more important holiday in America than ever.