Swedish human rights activist Anna Ardin is glad Julian Assange is free.

But the claims she has made about him suggest she would have every reason not to wish him well.

Ardin is fiercely proud of Assange’s work for WikiLeaks, and insists that it should never have landed him behind bars.

“We have the right to know about the wars that are fought in our name,” she says.

Speaking to Ardin over Zoom in Stockholm, it quickly becomes clear that she has no problem keeping what she sees as the two Assanges apart in her head - the visionary activist and the man who she says does not treat women well.

She is at pains to describe him neither as a hero nor a monster, but a complicated man.

  • lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works
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    She just seems to believe in due process and fairness. Obviously, what happened to Assange so far hasn’t been either.

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      I mean her case was investigated and he was freed to leave the country afterward. It didn’t come back with a vengeance until it could be used as a means to put him where the US could get at him.

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    What about the 3rd man, who espouses his organization isn’t an arbiter of information, and yet, repeatedly prevented Russian leaks from being published? 🤔

    And with the Russian invasion of Ukraine, where is wikileaks now?

    Cozy Bear really appreciated having such a loyal publisher, I imagine.

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      I still see absolutely no reason to lock him up. Just because he’s biased towards one side that doesn’t make the crimes of the other side any better. Ideally, yes, he should publish everything. But that’s not the case. And it’s still irrelevant.

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        Yeah I’m not necessarily in disagreement there. Though I respect those whistle-blowers who are willing to be a martyr for a cause they believe in. Ellsberg faced justice head on, for example. Meanwhile Snowden fled to one of the most corrupt countries in the world with a vendetta against the USA, and Greenwald is now parroting Kremlin propaganda strangely. Assange is somewhere in the middle for me.

        At the end of the day, Assange effectively did face justice and came out the other side, so I give credit.

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      And with the Russian invasion of Ukraine, where is wikileaks now?

      I mean what do you want him to leak? Everything is out there for everyone to see.

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        If you’re saying this tongue-in-cheek to note that it’s flatly obvious that Putin is a corrupt imperialist tyrant, true I agree. But there is always more damaging information to be revealed not just to the world but internally to the people of Russia within the echo-chamber. For instance, more on Putin’s personal finances. More on Aleksandr Dugin, Putin’s neo-nazi Rasputin, etc.

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          Did Assange ever have access to that information? I admittedly don’t know the details but I don’t tbink he was ever in that kind of position.

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            No idea, honestly. But historical precedent would suggest that he would ignore it even if he did.

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    I’ve heard accusations that assange is politically biased and refused to publish leaks about rupukelicans on wikileaks so I’m not sure what to think of him

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      I don’t know that he has refused, but he definitely allowed Russia to play him like a fiddle in having him publish the DNC hack (and let’s not forget, it was a hack, not a leak) while holding on to RNC hacked data.

      I have questions on if Trump wins in 2016 without Assange, and that’s enough to make me hate him.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    They set off a chain of events which saw him trying to avoid extradition to Sweden by seeking asylum in a London embassy for seven years.In 2019 the Swedish authorities ended their investigation.

    If this was the case, he probably would have committed an offence under Swedish law.Later, Ardin writes that she heard from another woman - named in legal papers as SW - who had attended the seminar.

    In a 2016 statement to Swedish prosecutors, Assange maintained that his sexual relationship with SW was entirely consensual, and that in texts seen by his lawyers, she told a friend that she had been “half asleep”.Both women filed police reports - Ardin’s case was categorised as alleged sexual misconduct, and SW’s as alleged rape.The press got hold of the reports, setting off an extraordinary series of events.

    Now we have the first one.”Another post followed the next day: “Reminder: US intelligence planned to destroy WikiLeaks as far back as 2008.”Assange’s UK lawyer Mark Stephens claimed that a “honeytrap” had been sprung and that “dark forces” were at work.A social media furore erupted which Ardin describes as “hell” – she tells me the amount of harassment and death threats forced her to leave Sweden at one point.“I couldn’t work.

    Greece’s former Finance Minister, Yanis Varoufakis, a long-time supporter of Assange, last week described her claims as “mud” and “innuendo”.No evidence has ever been found to link Ardin with US intelligence.

    Months after the incidents, an international arrest warrant was issued for Assange, who was in London at that point.In December 2010, he admitted to the BBC that it was “not probable” he was part of a classic honey-trap operation - but he still denied any wrongdoing.Assange was convinced that if he went to Sweden he would then be extradited to the US - where he feared the death penalty awaited.


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    It’s amazing how every liberal that sees massive American war crimes under Bush and Obama being exposed can only go "but what about Republicans? Else it doesn’t count!

    Bush is literally a Republican.

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    However, he spent the next five years in a British prison fighting extradition to the US, where he faced prosecution over massive leaks of confidential information.

    These include US army footage showing Iraqi civilians being killed, and documents suggesting the US military killed hundreds of Afghan civilians in unreported incidents.

    Fuck, BBC. Do you think you maybe forgot something there? Really? Can’t think of anything else? Just the . . uh . . the army footage? That’s it huh. No . . other . . possible . . . lets say, espionage? No? Well, BBC. This is a highly factual article. fOr Me To pOoP oN!!

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        Probably still salty that Wikileaks publicized the DNC/Team Hillary emails discussing how they were rigging the 2016 primaries.

        Granted, the delay to after the primaries but before the general WAS sus as fuck, obviously, but the greater crime was still the election rigging, not revealing it at an inopportune time for the conspirators 🤷

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    he was locked hiding in a small studio for over an year away from all human contact then she came trying to interview him off course he acted like a caveman who hasn’t eaten meat in decades

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      This ^ hot take is brought to you by the same people who ask " If you don’t believe in god what is stopping you from raping and murdering your whole neighborhood? "

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      This take that is basically saying men are just animals that can’t control their urges, brought to you by a person who 100% replies to any statement about men being shitty with “nOT AlL mEn”.