For me its:

  1. Ultima Online

  2. Final Fantasy XI

  3. Ragnarok Online

UO was a game I just recently discovered and it’s fantastic, best sandbox experience I’ve ever had in a game.

FFXI was another recent discovery. It took the formula from Everquest and made it better. The game is even less grindy today with the QOL changes.

RO was a big part of my teenage years. I love the look of the game, it reminds me of Final Fantasy Tactics. It’s a great casual game to just pop into and grind out some levels or explore.

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      Pretty standard fare for mmorpgs since WoW, the whole themparkization of questing.

      Even with that big shortcoming, there is still a lot to see and do, and just about all content but DLC dungeons are functionally free after you pay the box price, and the most recent box typically includes all previous expansions.

      Tamriel is one of my guilty pleasures, even with todd 's ongoing skullduggery and bad ideas floating over the rest of the series.

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        I revisit it every now and then because I want to like it so much but I always get bored fairly quickly because it’s just such a piss easy game. I wish they’d just give me a difficulty slider to crank up, I don’t even want a bonus for it.

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              Yeah, the overworld is meant to be roamed around in casually. Like many MMOs, the challenging areas are contained experiences.

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                Yeah MMOs seem to have just evolved over the years to make the leveling process extremely fast and extremely easy. I always just end up back on a classic WOW private server.

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                  Yeah MMOs seem to have just evolved over the years to make the leveling process extremely fast and extremely easy.

                  I suppose the difference there for me is I never liked leveling up and mostly saw it as a way of learning how to play the class for the actually challenging endgame content, a sort of extended tutorial with story beats.

                  The older games that outright took away level progress on death, I played those too before. I don’t want to go back.

                  I always just end up back on a classic WOW private server.

                  It’s definitely subjective preference, because for me returning to “classic” WOW (yes, I was there) would feel more like a punishment.

                  I started MMOs back in Everquest 1 and I don’t want to return to day one vanilla there, either. Like I said, personal difference.

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                    It’s the opposite for me, the whole experience has always been the leveling journey for me. Exploring the world, doing the quests, meeting cool monsters and killing them. Even Guild Wars 1 that was the part I enjoyed the most. I find raiding just excruciatingly boring.

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              I had this issue too while questing, it took some tinkering to make a ‘nerfed profile’ where the overland enemies pose a bit of danger, wearing almost no armor, no blue/red CP skills, fairly low health, also using some of the new ‘scribing’ skills, they’re customizable but not very powerful, I use a npc companion too because it’s more fun gameplay overall, on average I don’t think people have enough time to mess around like this though, the overland feedback thread on their forum has like 200+ pages of people debating for and against raising overland difficulty lol