• KobaCumTribute [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    Also the Emperor is from somewhere in what is now Turkey and canonically the most common language the humans speak (“Gothic”) is descended from Mandarin and is just artistically portrayed as being Latin based because “High Gothic” is supposed to scan as archaic in the way that inserting incorrect Latin into English does.

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      the humans speak (“Gothic”) is descended from Mandarin and is just artistically portrayed as being Latin based because “High Gothic” is supposed to scan as archaic in the way that inserting incorrect Latin into English does

      According to Matt Ward and his clumsy glazing for the Grey Knights, they actually have the letters of K N I G H T stamped on their baby carriage armor.

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          I’ll never forget when a fucking Games Workshop puff piece writer interviewed him and asked about the whole (CW: gore)

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          “Grey Knights butchering Sisters of Battle to make magical talismans out of their body parts to ostensibly ‘protect’ them from the evils of the Warp in a totally not-evil way”

          thing and Matt Ward was fucking giggling during his response about how cool and epic that was.

          I swear, that shit was so awful that just seeing the word “gray/grey” describing things in fiction made me pre-emptively groan in anticipation of even more “all the cool perks of evil but you can’t call this power fantasy wankjob evil, maaaaaan” edgelord writing.

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                I think that even got removed from canon. It wasn’t even necessary tbh the point of the grey knights is they are downright impossible to corrupt. Hell they have kaldor draigo roaming the warp for hundreds of years (although hes like a gary stu)

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                  That already sounds like bullshit developer-preference power fantasy to me. Matt Ward just liked to giggle at gory acts of misogyny I suppose.

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                    I keep saying 40k is over the top and even that was just goofy. The emperor gets fed 1000 psykers a day to keep him going. Then I remember covid coming along and over 1000 were dying a day and it was seen as acceptable sacrifice to grease the wheels of this machine and suddenly you realise FUCK

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      You have a source for Gothic being Mandarin-descended? Never heard that before, but I could see it. The imperial palace being in the himalayas would certainly put it geographically in the correct place, but I don’t remember from where he started the unification wars.

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        I think it’s something from an old Rogue Trader article? So it may be more a metacommentary from an old writer sort of thing, that Gothic would have been descended from Mandarin with a bunch of English vocabulary mixed in, albeit all unrecognizable after tens of thousands of years of sound changes.

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          Just checked and Lexicanum has the following sentence on Low Gothic:

          Low Gothic is a bastardised version of High Gothic, combining additional elements from several of the oriental languages of ancient Terra.

          So close enough, but it still had to hit the 80’s racism quotient lol.