In over 30 years of practice, Dr. Errol Billinkoff rarely saw a man without kids come into his Winnipeg clinic to get a vasectomy. But since the pandemic began, he says it’s become an almost daily occurrence.
And he’s not alone.
“At first, I thought I was the only one who was noticing this,” Billinkoff, who brought a no-scalpel vasectomy procedure to Winnipeg in the early 1990s, told CBC News in a November interview.
“But I am part of an international chat group where doctors who do vasectomies participate and the topic came up, and it’s like everybody notices it.”
Can anyone here who’s gotten one comment on the vasectomy process? I’ve been pretty nervous seeing a lot of the comments about it. I don’t even do well with a normal blood draw. I feel like I’d need general anesthesia for this.
- No right to abortion in the United States
- Giving someone who didn’t get asked or consent to being born, the forced existence of life.
- A child for a parent is expensive, mentally draining, and you have to be a good parent
- You also have to be the parent for a child with any special needs, from allergies to mental issues to being born without limbs
- If the child is any form of “other” to society, they will be picked on, and then possible harmed by the rise of Neo-Fascism
- Work or starve, work or be cold, work until you die. Another tax number, another corporate slave.
Being born is fine, once you’re here you should try to live life to its fullest. But I don’t want kids, I would be a horrid father.
Why would I force another human into this shitty existence?
Also condoms suck and raw dick is just better.
yea same. condoms suck.
Syphilis and gonorrhea must love you.
Wow, I didn’t know it was impossible not to stick your dick in every passing stranger. Here I was only having sex with people I know and who have been tested like a weirdo.
As someone who’s had a vasectomy: it’s very hard to not stick my dick in a total stranger. That MTV advert with the skates is a more than daily occurrence, and I don’t even skate. Luckily, due to my vasectomy, there are no babies.
Only six STDs so far, so could be worse.
Ducks are dirty rapists
Those are rookie numbers. You gotta pump those up. See if you can catch a shiny syphilis.
Edit: I will now be refering to all antibiotic resistant diseases as shiny diseases. Nobody can stop me.
Well do you ask your partners if they have STDs?
Kind of slut shamie don’t you think?
Continue not taxing the rich and making conditions worse for the 99%. Let’s see how it works out.
This is a t-shirt for women! Parts of the men would be so mad at it!
When animals are over stressed, unable to provide the basics of survival, and constantly dealing with external threats they tend to not have babies.
No kids, never wanted them, made sure I never have them. Happily married for 8 years, she never wants kids either.
so you guys are DINKs
Here’s the thing about abortion in Canada …
- the right to abortion is not codified in law: the SCoC struck down the laws against abortion in 1988 based on our 1982 Charter of Rights
- abortion is technically legal under the federal Health Act
- this is why the Cons have stated they don’t want to challenge women’s ability to have an abortion … because if they did in court, and it went to SCoC, the court could (and likely would) force the Con gov’t to enact actual legislation forever enshrining abortion rights in Canadian law
- the Cons, just like the GOP down south, are hoping to have enough power at some time to force change here – but the problem is our SCoC works differently than SCOTUS (ie: zero judges are elected in Canada, ever); SCoC rulings are not based on original intent (and our Charter is vastly newer than America’s founding documents); etc.
This is what happens when you can’t afford raising kids and also more and more people decide that they would rather just enjoy their life without the responsibility or or financial burden of raising kids. I don’t know how i feel about this due to the our birth rate not doing so well, and instead of people having children, we have to import people into the country (which i have no problem with but that really isn’t a solution).
that really isn’t a solution
why not? are you afraid of johnny whitebread “real”
muricancanadian getting…replaced?the fact that the 1% is shitting their pants over the declining birthrate makes me think it’s fan fucking tastic. every industry’s profit margin suffers from fewer babies. less money is spent on food, gas, clothes, giant SUVs, toys, medicine–literally everything you buy for yourself, you’re also buying for your kids for 18 years. unless you don’t have kids.
those poor, poor shareholders.
fuck them. low birthrate = GOOD.
also, please–who wants to have a kid just so they can explain to them why they’re growing up in a toxic wasteland?
why not? are you afraid of johnny whitebread “real” murican canadian getting…replaced?
It’s not a solution because, with a few exceptions, standards of living (and therefore reasons to not immigrate) are rising in most of the world, so in a few decades there likely won’t be enough migrants to go around.
those poor, poor shareholders.
If it looks like only shareholders are having problems because of low birthrates in Japan and South Korea, then you should learn more about those places.
Bruh there’s 8 billion people on the planet. We don’t need more. We won’t be running out of migrants any time soon.
i’m not sure why you brought race into this, when there is multiple multigenerional multicultural people in this country. I don’t think its a requirement that everyone has to have a child, but the way you are talking makes it sound like its a good thing our species wipes itself out. I get how you feel about CEOs and stuff, but i was just stating that why our birthrate was low, and what the goverment has done to fix that.
makes it sound like its a good thing our species wipes itself out
not necessarily a good thing, but we are indeed wiping ourselves out, for better or worse. sure, future generations might fix all the multitudes of problems we’ve caused (doubt), but how many will have to die in the process?
evangelists love to call people who don’t want kids “selfish.” on the contrary, it’s the polar opposite of selfish to deny our own reptilian brain instincts to pass on our genes because we don’t think it’s a moral decision to bring innocent children to life in this soon-to-be-uninhabitable broken hellscape
I think we cannot give up and say that this is it.
guess you better start having more kids then
I don’t want to. Can’t afford it
I’m doing my part.
But seriously, men should be more responsible when it comes to birth control and not leave it up to women, so I think this is a good thing.
men should be more responsible when it comes to birth control and not leave it up to women
Men literally only have 2 options: condom or vasectomy. Condoms don’t feel good for either side, which is why both try to avoid using them. Vasectomies can be reversible, but require surgery and thus are costly, which of course makes it impossible or at the very least much less attractive for a large portion of society.
Yes, men can buy underwear that heats up their balls to temperatures that kill sperm, but I’d like you to go around spreading the word of discomfort through sweaty balls and see how far you get.
Your 3rd option is chemical castration, which is kind of like taking the pill for decades.
That’s not really an option comparable to taking the pill. Firstly, it isn’t meant to sterilize, it works by effectively removing a person’s ability to become aroused. It also comes with a ton of side effects like reduced testosterone, osteoporosis, suicidal thoughts, etc.
At least with a condom, a guy can still have sex.
The pill gives women multiple side effects that can be debilitating yet men still prefer the woman take care of birth control.
Granted, but generally women are still able to have sex on the pill. Chemical castration removes that ability entirely, on top of the side effects.
Presenting that in a thread discussing men undergoing voluntary surgery to sterilize themselves while stating that men make women handle birth control is a bit of a hot take there.
Yeah, I can already hear the hordes dashing to the urologist for that.
This is what happens when the conservatives threaten the right to an abortion. Drastic measures have to be taken.
No kid should be born unloved or a woman have her life threatened because too many ignorant folks think she is sinful for getting healthcare or evil for not raising more wage slaves for the bourgeoisie.
I disagree but unless we get actual data on why people are choosing not to have kids then we don’t really know for sure.
I’d say the major reason is wealth inequality, cost of living, inflation, housing prices, etc. Everything’s too expensive… everything. It’s getting to the point that life isn’t even worth living anymore, as its just a repetitive cycle to work and pay bills. I both can’t afford to have a kid, nor would I want to bring one into this hellscape.
Again no way to know the real reasons unless we get the data.
It’s money first and foremost. People are struggling to survive by themselves. They can’t afford kids. So conservatives get rid of abortion. They frame it as a religious issue, but it’s only such for their ignorant followers. For those monied individuals at the top its purely about having an ever growing slave caste to exploit. Can’t have infinitely growing profits without an infinitely growing base of suckers to sell shit to.
It’s also about freedom. Self determination. And the general state of the world. Nothing of substance is being done about climate change. We’re staring down the barrel of WWIII. Late Stage capitalism.
It’s a confluence of factors that taken together paint a particularly bleak future.
Im planning on getting one soon, and it’s definitely this for me.
Also I tend to believe climate scientists who say shit is going to get interesting within the next 20 years… not really something I’d feel good about bringing a kid into.
One data point and I’m American, but figured I’d give my two cents on why I did it.
In addition to all the reasons you listed I think that my own mental health is an obstacle, and also the increasingly limited access to women’s healthcare.
Making the decision to not have kids was a complex issue for me as I imagine it is for others too. Tbh the political and economic climate was probably the final push I needed, but there’s probably at least 10 reasons in total.
Did Canada ban abortion ?
All the conservative mps have voted against support of abortions recently and they’re currently projected to a win a majority government in the future.
Let’s get clear i hate pp and the con as much a everybody here but pp never ever talked about removing abortion rights, he actually said the opposite. I’ll reiterate pp is a loser, he has no real agenda, and his whole camapign is basically fuck trudeau. But he never said abortions right were on the table.
A common sense Conservative government will not legislate on abortion and therefore would never use this section of the Constitution pertaining to this matter," he said.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poilievre-same-sex-marriage-abortion-1.7222881
In an interview with Liberal MP Nathaniel Erskine-Smith, who hosts a podcast called Uncommons, Alberta Conservative MP Arnold Viersen also stressed his social conservative credentials on other issues, saying he wants protections for what he calls the “pre-born,” supports Alberta Premier Danielle Smith’s transgender policies and would vote to criminalize cannabis possession again if given the opportunity.
Asked by Erskine-Smith about a hypothetical future bill to overturn same-sex marriage, Viersen said, “I vote gay marriage down.”
In a media statement issued Monday, Poilievre said Viersen’s statements and positions “do not represent the positions of the Conservative Party, or myself as leader.”
“As our party’s policy book, adopted by party members, has said for years, ‘a Conservative Government will not support any legislation to regulate abortion.’ When I am prime minister, no laws or rules will be passed that restrict women’s reproductive choices. Period,” Poilievre added
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rayes-abortion-poilievre-1.7362640
Poilievre has said that if he’s elected prime minister, his government will not support any legislation to regulate abortion.
“As the Party’s policy book, adopted by Party members, has said for years, ‘a Conservative Government will not support any legislation to regulate abortion,’” said Poilievre’s spokesperson, Sebastian Skamski, in a media statement.
“When Canadians elect Pierre Poilievre as Prime Minister, no laws or rules will be passed that restrict women’s reproductive choices. Period.”
Once again just to be clear. Fuck pp and his cons🫡
Yes, but also conservatives are frequently lying bastards who promise to not make things worse and then make things worse. The US supreme court judges aren’t Canadian, but they are conservatives and the recently appointed ones all said that Roe v Wade was settled law and they wouldn’t change it,.
I’m sorry, there is an international chat group where a bunch of doctors that perform vasectomies congregate and talk about vasectomies?
Probably. I can imagine doctors being like “Hey y’all check out my favorite vasectomizin’ wrench. You should get one of these, it’s a true 0 degree, tightens down them nuts in hard to reach spaces.”
Is that weird? I’m in HVAC and I talk with fellow HVAC people all over the world. This is a thing with most fields. It doesn’t seem at all weird that there would be groups of urologists online.
People join chatrooms to talk about their favorite TV shows or their jobs. This is no different.
Welcome to the Internet - you’re new here, I take it?
I’m imagining a lads’ group where they post the gnarliest botched vasectomies
I mean, yeah, why not? There are international whatevers for almost anything, specially professional practices. It’s less cumbersome and cheaper than relying on regulatory bodies to organize and run conventions or seminars. Most of these chats are informal and born from that kind of events as well.
Something I also learned from working with the health sector is that there are really very few 100% dedicated to their niche specialists in every area. Sure, there are many heart surgeons, but very few experts on ventricular septal defect surgery on children. And some of that stuff can be so complex as to be a sole area of dedicated study. It allows these kind of informal forums and encourages a strong mentor-apprentice dynamics. So it is not rare they hit the group chat every once in a while. I also learned there are over a dozen different ways to make a vasectomy procedure and some doctors know how to do a few but not all of them and there are reasons to prefer some over the others depending on the patient.
Gotta share the best practices, its like the postmarket os matrix chat where tech enthusiasts support each other improving builds ;)
lol all about that postmarket
Too specific analogy.
Vasectomies without Borders
Probably slightly more generalized like a urologist chat.
