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Not surprising since the last gen was impossible to find due to crypto and the current gen is overpriced.
Not to mention them being HUGE physically and sucking down a ton of power. And the whole fire thing that hit the news that made a lot of people decide to wait.
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Still rocking my 1070ti. I mostly play overwatch 2 and Minecraft so it works ok for me now. Also I’m broke and can’t afford the upgrade.
I had a 1070ti since 2018 and it has run everything I have purchased just fine.
I thought about checking out this ray tracing stuff the kids are into, but is there a card under $300 that anyone recommends? It also would need to be mini itx as I have a tiny living room gaming PC.
Sorry but I’m not sure you’re going to get any good ray tracing experience for less than $300.
AMD probably has the best general use GPU in that price range.
Intel probably has the best (with a big asterisk due to driver and directx issues) gaming GPU in that price range.
It’s just hard to recommend buying a GPU right now imo.
Figured, I am happy with what I got 🙂
1080 here. I’m really happy with the decision I made years back. Some games are terribly not optimized, but that won’t make me cash out for a new piece of hardware.
And anything that’s actually worth upgrading from my GPU is going to be even bigger and block the front panel pins on my new motherboard I was gifted last year. Yep.
Some AMD stuff is kind of cheap rn. You can get the 6700XT For around 340 USD. And it’s good performance wise I think. Granted you are on something where you don’t need it imo. I was on something a lot less powerful which is why I made the plunge.
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It’s even worse if you do creative work on your PC. Nvidia dominates this field completely because of the performance difference. My GPU is old and I really really need a new card for my 3d work but Nvidia is such a awful company…
I stopped buying new a long time ago, it doesn’t make sense financially or ecologically. It also doesn’t help that I live in a part of Europe where all pc parts are more expensive by default. But used or refurbished is the way to, get a generation older quadro (or whatever they are called now, A something?) and you and your wallet will be happier.
They don’t understand average consumer looking to buy a desktop GPU is not the same as crypto miners looking to buy GPUs. Once crypto miners exited the market so did the main reason for an unusual number of units being sold leading to high prices in the first place, since to them it is a business expense.
I think Nvidia at least have theirs eyes on the ml market. Theys just dont care about even the mid range. The decision to not put a decend amount of vram on these cards serms like a deliberate move to prevent them running many ML workloads.
Personally I’m starting to buy second-hand hardware and I recommend it. Less pricey, more eco-friendly and less money in pockes of greedy corps
I did this, but my new second hand GPU has loud and annoying coil whine.
Oh well, it could be worse.
Almost all of my computer hardware is second-hand! My plex server was free from a guy on reddit and I built a second gaming PC for the TV for maybe $100.
The obvious answer to this question is that the crypto bubble burst and AMD and nvidia are charging high prices for incremental gains.
I think the other piece to this puzzle though is that you dont need a high end gpu or even middle high to play a game at settings that look ok today. I upgraded from a 5600xt to a 6800xt recently but it was hard to pull the trigger and justify the expense because I was still playing new releases at decent enough looking settings at 60fps. Old hardware is lasting for longer, and you can still do quite a bit on midrange and lower end hardware.
In addition to that even integrated gpus are at a point where you can play games at a decent clip. Its not the high end max all settings experience, but my wife is perfectly happy playing games on her laptop with a 5800u and vega 10 gpu.
I bought a 4070Ti for $1k and I deeply regret it. Not because I can’t afford it, but because I let my want of gaming at 120 fps overpower my ethics of enabling a company to get away with these prices. It’s definitely a regret I have.
I paid $1100 for a 3070 during the pandemic with a newegg bundle deal (trash stuff they couldn’t sell). I already had a 2070 and it was a complete waste of money.
I feel that way too. My 2080 is still good so the itch isnt as strong but when I play something on my 4k TV and the fps dips below 60 the itch returns. I truly don’t want to buy anything from nvidia or amd even for a good while so here’s hoping Intel keeps at it and doesn’t get stupid expensive as well
i built my pc when gpu prices were sky high in 2020. i settled for a 980 at the time, and its served me really well, actually. it had been years and years since i built my own pc, and it really made me understand how meaningless having the highest tier, current gen hardware is. i thought by now i would have upgraded it for sure, but ive never had any reason to other than maybe wanting to experiment with self hosted ai. nvidia thinks the average consumer is gonna shell out some ridiculous amount of cash for their newest product when its barely better than the previous gen and you really dont need it unless youre chasing clout or tie your self worth to your 3dmark score.
I built mine in 2018 when prices were also high (but not the peak I don’t believe) and settled on an RX570 since I really only needed it for transcoding with Plex and because I bought a second gen Ryzen 7 that doesn’t have onboard graphics. I ran that thing up until last week when I was given both a 1080 TI and a Quadro P4000 for free from two different people. Now I have more GPUs than I know what to do with. I stuck the 1080 TI in since the P4000 only had DVI outputs (though it would be the better card for Plex), but now I have the option to do a little bit of gaming if I want (mostly play console) or do PCVR with my Quest 2.
I’m still running a 1060 6gb card. I’ll keep it for as long as I can, and then I’ll likely upgrade to something that isn’t the newest generation at the time.
I’ll probably use my 1070 till it dies, and after that if I’m able to fix it :)
same. I’m on a 1060ti 6GB doing fine. My machine is at a point that it is maxed out, so I would need to build a whole new one. Still, I’m using Linux exclusively and lag a few years behind the latest games to save on money, so I’m no hurry. I’ll get there when the prices want to come down to my level.
Ditto. My 1660 super and 10th gen i5 run Diablo 4 and Lightroom smoothly. No need to upgrade until that’s not the case. It’ll be 3 years young in November.
Just, no reason to upgrade yet. My current card plays even the newest games at middling levels which is tolerable. Based on previous experience, I’ll upgrade once every 5 years or so. I’m only two years into this secondhand card.
I wish intel got more attention in this field. I have an a380 in my homeserver and its great for lighter tasks such as transcoding a handful of streams at a time. They’ve been putting a lot of effort into improving the drivers for gaming as well as general use.
They are priced pretty competitive too. I would just hate to run into a game I want to play that’s held back specifically because of an Intel GPU.
I’m rooting for Intel now. Both Nvidia and AMD don’t seem to care about average consumer who would be completely happy with a low to mid-tier graphics card if it was just cheap enough. I hope Intel’s Battlemage would fix many of their current bugs and problems with some games and at the same time would get a sizable performance improvement. Right now I wouldn’t be comfortable in buying a GPU that fails to launch some games randomly.
Another huge upside is Intel’s great Linux support that they have had since, I dunno, forever. Since I wish to eventually move to gaming exclusively on Linux, it’s a huge bonus as well.
Agreed on all fronts. And there’s never been a better time to make the jump to linux for gaming!
Yeah I think up until this year NVidia consumer cards only allowed 3 streams for hardware encoding no matter how many cards you had. It sounds like they’ve changed it to 5 in March this year, there is a way to supposedly unlock it though https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_NVENC
What I like about about Intel cards are they’ve always just worked for me out of the box, sometimes with NVidia I’ve had to do some tweaking or had issues with drivers but not as much within the lastbfew years.
Yeah it’s an artificial limit. Pretty sure you can remove it, saw something about it on github.
And yeah, on linux at least since kernel 6.1 intel arc is really plug and play.
My mental calculus is: do I want to build a new gaming PC which will appreciably out preform my 1070 now for $2500, or do I want to buy the next 4 generations of steam deck for the same net price?
Everyone has a synced upgrade cycle now because EVERYONE upgraded when we were all locked in due to COVID. Does the massive spike in 2021/22 average out to a normalized graph? Yes?
It’s not even only that: crypto mining went from every card the miners could find to literally zero almost overnight. The spike was, honestly, more driven by crypto than gaming during the super-high sales in 2020/21 and then immediately vanished.
Of course, nVidia ALSO alienated the heck out of a lot of potential buyers who are sitting on the sidelines because they’re not paying the inflated prices caused by that spike, so the crypto guys are gone, and the gamers are waiting.
HEY I HAD NOTHING ELSE TO DO OKAY
Can’t really talk about AMD but NVIDIA are at a position to drop every other model except for the x90 without major repercussions. Hell they can even go full enterprise selling these A1000 at a ridiculous profit margin. For NVIDIA at this point the gaming GPU market is just a “good to have”. Artificial segmentation in VRAM aside the chips are just too good to service the consumer market so they might as well sell them for silly money. They don’t particularly care about selling the gaming GPUs because they aren’t losing anything not doing so
My hopes are on Intel as viable 3rd party. Looks like AMD and Nvidia have agreed they can fleece customers for piss poor perf/price improvements.
Yes, and it is quite disappointing. I am hopeful that Intel does well with Battlemage as a potential option.
