• Wahots@pawb.social
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    Good for Germany. I think they could teach us a thing or two about how to solve our own problems with far right groups.

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    Maybe they should ban far-left organizations indoctrinating children with marxist ideology as well? It’s not like communism killed millions or something…

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      Why is it that whenever someone says “Nazis are bad” there are always weirdos crawling out of the woodwork to say “what about communism?”?

      It’s like clockwork.

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        Because Communism overall killed more people than Nazism. The hypocrisy of banning nazi symbols while allowing soviet ones is just unbearable.

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          You are just going to have to live with the fact that you’re the weirdo on this. People do not see Nazism and communism as similar or comparable. Nazism has discrimination and extermination of the “other” as core tenets of the ideology, communism is an economic model that simply does not have those elements no matter how desperate you are to assign them to it.

          Authoritarianism is bad. But communism is not authoritarian. Governments calling themselves communist have become authoritarian and committed atrocities. But as much as weirdos like yourself like to deny it, governments capable of genocide are also capable of lying about being communist.

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            Completely agree, and I think the pithy tl;dr of this is simply:

            Communists have hurt and killed people in service of the ideology. With fascism, hurting and killing people is the ideology.

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            Weird how he just… disappeared instead of admitting you may have a point. How long until he makes the same argument in another thread?

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          Communism overall killed more people than nazism

          This claim likely comes from the black book of communism, which includes lowered birth rates as deaths. Birth rates sink when women gain more freedom and education, so it should absolutely not be considered a bad thing, let alone a death.

          Further, if the calculations used in that book were applied to capitalism, capitalism would have caused more deaths.

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            Ok. Life expectancy in america is lower for poor people. We can agree on that. Can you please compare it to the life expectancy in communist countries, like North Korea, USSR or China during Mao regime?

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              Nice deflection to the 1st country that isn’t Communist, a 2nd Country that doesnt exist anymore, and a 3rd country’s past failure. China has increased their life expectancy by over 44 years in the past 80 years of Communist rule and passed the USA in 2020. The USA is trending in the opposite direction…

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            If you want to imply that communism is more friendly to the environment, I’ll have to disappoint you.

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_issues_in_Russia

            Many of the issues have been attributed to policies that were made during the early Soviet Union, at a time when many officials felt that pollution control was an unnecessary hindrance to economic development and industrialization, and, even though numerous attempts were made by the Soviet government to alleviate the situation in the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s, the problems were not completely solved.[1] By the 1990s, 40% of Russia’s territory began demonstrating symptoms of significant ecological stress, largely due to a diverse number of environmental issues, including deforestation, energy irresponsibility, pollution, and nuclear waste.[2]