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      Ukraine is about to have its own greatest generation. I take some solace in the fact that after they win, the world is going to give Ukraine enough money to rebuild

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        I know I’ll be there to help. Planning to move to Yalta or Sevastopol in retirement to spend the rest of my days helping people learn English. And my social security checks will go toward supporting local businesses there however long that retirement lasts.

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      This is why we don‘t do war anymore: the psychological damage lasts for generations.

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    Daily records: 11 Special Equipment

    Change since the previous day, day range averages and total all time
    Category Change 7d 14d 30d Total
    Personnel +530 708.6 692.9 683.3 464.2 (228870)
    Tanks +1 2.6 4.6 7.9 8.2 (4042)
    APVs +5 9.1 11.6 13.0 16.0 (7868)
    Artillery +35 21.0 23.4 22.9 8.4 (4162)
    MLRS +2 1.9 1.6 1.9 1.3 (632)
    Anti-aircraft Systems - 0.9 1.8 1.9 0.8 (389)
    Aircraft - 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.6 (315)
    Helicopters - - 0.4 0.3 0.6 (308)
    UAVs +26 12.1 12.9 13.8 7.2 (3545)
    Missiles - 4.7 3.6 5.1 2.6 (1261)
    Warships / Boats - - - - 0.04 (18)
    Other Vehicles +9 9.0 16.9 18.5 13.8 (6794)
    Special Equipment +11 4.6 4.3 4.1 1.2 (580)
    Change since the previous day, total losses for day ranges and total all time
    Category Change 7d 14d 30d Total
    Personnel +530 4960 9700 20500 228870
    Tanks +1 18 65 238 4042
    APVs +5 64 162 390 7868
    Artillery +35 147 328 688 4162
    MLRS +2 13 23 57 632
    Anti-aircraft Systems - 6 25 56 389
    Aircraft - 1 1 2 315
    Helicopters - - 6 10 308
    UAVs +26 85 181 414 3545
    Missiles - 33 50 154 1261
    Warships / Boats - - - - 18
    Other Vehicles +9 63 237 555 6794
    Special Equipment +11 32 60 122 580

    Source: The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

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    Whats the point of these charts?
    Obviosly both sides will under-report own and over-report enemies loses.

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      Would you prefer exaggerated data from both sides or no data? That’s the options. I think you get a better estimate of the reality using the first option as a starting point.

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        I mean thats the thing, you cant get any “estimate of the reality” when the data is fake. We will probably never know the real numbers(at least not anytime soon).

        The real issue is that this is used to further encourage the war chearleaders, “look how much ass were kicking”, while the reality is that innocent people that didnt ask for this are dying on both sides like flies. And all these fuckers on reddit and now here, that post this crap dont really care for human lives, but just make sure the public opinion keeps being geared towards continuing this madness as long as possible.

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          If you look historically at how counties have exaggerated their performance in war, you see there is more to it than that. They’re rarely if ever totally invented figures during an ongoing conflict, it’s much more often both sides manipulating the numbers through a concerted bias in their rounding method. Intentional or not, the goal of reporting to the public is to stave off low moral while setting up realistic expectations for the future however the military intelligence defines ‘realistic.’