• duderium [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    11 months ago

    Something something, the Soviets beat the Nazis because Soviet tanks were cheaper to produce and maintain though not necessarily better than the Nazi tanks, which were expensive and difficult to maintain because profits were more important than winning an actual war to the capitalist Nazis than to the communist Soviets. That’s one reason anyway.

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    11 months ago

    It’s just utterly beautiful how Western™ solutions are utterly powerless against people with barely any resources who are just determined

  • Alaskaball [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    11 months ago

    Some cope I hear out of some old zionist supporter I know in regards to the tin foil dome getting domed is how the Israelis somehow perfected laser beams and can shoot down missiles with flashlights powered by their unlimited power supply, and I’m sitting there listening like huh

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            11 months ago

            Honestly laser defenses against rockets are not the craziest idea in the world, you definitely reduce the amount of debris. However, they just started deploying that system like this week I believe, so it is basically untested in real world scenarios. I doubt it was ready to be used yet.

            It could be a surprise success but I doubt it. Might work a bit better against slower moving targets that are easier to track, like drones. I also would wonder how often it can be fired. It’s pulling a lot of power per firing, I doubt it can be rapid-fired in the volume they’d need to intercept the volume of Hamas rockets being fired.

            Even if it worked perfectly, it would still cost several times the cost of a hamas rocket per firing.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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              11 months ago

              The main issues tend to be that lasers need clear weather conditions, which likely isn’t a problem there, the power consumption, and heat dissipation. The other two problems are kinda hard to solve. If you’re intercepting one or two missiles, it works fine, but if you have thousands coming in then the system either overheats or it needs more electricity than you can produce.

  • BelieveRevolt [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    11 months ago

    I remember when Ukraine was pissed off that Israel wouldn’t give them an Iron Dome system. farquaad-point

    To me, it was always obvious the much ballyhooed Iron Dome wasn’t that effective, because it even let the puny Palestinian rockets through pretty frequently. Now imagine if someone fired at them with an actual military-grade rocket battery.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      11 months ago

      Exactly, the thing can barely shoot down home made pop rockets, it has no chance against actual missiles a professional military uses. Giving Iron Dome to Ukraine would’ve exposed it for the sham that it is, and would also be costly as fuck. Israel decided to avoid the obvious PR disaster. It would’ve basically been the repeat of the Patriot debacle. My fav part about it was how it fires like 30 missiles each costing a few million in a space of a couple of minutes, and still failed to intercept the kinzhal. It was immediately shown to be equal parts ineffective and unsustainable as a means of air defence.

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        11 months ago

        I might be misremembering, but doesn’t the iron dome rely pretty heavily on volume of missiles being shot as a defensive response rather than precision accuracy? Meaning each missile might “only” be 80k but they are launching like a dozen of them?

        80k is still hundreds of times more than the rockets Hamas is using anyway.