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    11 months ago

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  • BillEvans4eva@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    it was a bad mistake but it was a subjetive call and that is where i think refs deserve some leeway. The liverpool spurs decision was an abolsute atrocity and i feel like teams have been jumping on the bandwagon of that poor decision to pile pressure on refs when they disagree with a decision.

    not trying to defend the ref here as he fucked up and knew he fucked up but city are the only ones to blame for not beating what was almost a spurs b team. the way haaland reacted was quite pathetic and if him and pep love the rules so much they should be having a word with their owners first

  • Competitive-Sea613@alien.topB
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    As much as I dislike City, one should be able to criticize the blatant calls made by referees. I never seen in my 15+ years of watching football something like yesterday’s mistake. Obviously, the same goes for all other charges ( Arteta, VVD…) where charges were absolutely ridiculous.

    Someone who earns 70k+ pounds per year as a football referee should held accountable for their mistakes.

  • llamapanther@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    I know the rules are rules and he’s probably going to face a short ban but seriously tho, that call would make anyone furious and them punishing players for criticising this absurd call just makes them look like fools who cannot admit their mistakes.

    • jesuisgeenbelg@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      Criticising the decision isn’t the issue here, it’s screaming in the refs face and putting your hands on him.

    • Thoughtful_Tortoise@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      Imagine a referee makes the correct call and City’s players, and Haaland, reacted the same way. We’d all think they’re bang out of order.

      The difference between the two situations is how bad a referee’s error is, and that’s not for a player to decide (especially not while in the field without the benefit of replay and so on). There’s no way to say “this error was bad enough for the players to crowd the ref and scream at him, but this one wasn’t”, so we need rules for how players can react to a call. Even in fucking atrocious refereeing decisions like this one.

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    11 months ago

    I would like referees to do a mandatory interview after every game, where they are shown on a little screen the tackles, fouls, cards and stoppages and they are allowed to explain what their thought process was.

    It would not be a witch hunt, if they don’t want to answer a question then thats their progative, there would be no difficult questions from the interviewer. If they admit to a wrong decision, or stand by a decision, there would be no changes or later disciplinary actions, but it would allow for more indepth analysis into how referees think because clearly men are from Mars, women are from Venus, and referees are from Omicron Percei 8.

    It would also keep the audience watching the screen for longer after the match waiting for the referee interview which would be after the managers, thereby increasing advertising retention.

  • DornPTSDkink@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    The only option is a season long ban and a forced selling to AFC Wimbledon for a packet of Quavers

    It’s only fair

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    11 months ago

    The premier league has become a dictatorship. Why can’t players and managers criticize the refs and VAR when they make stupid mistakes.

    • Aromatic-Olive-906@alien.topB
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      There’s criticism and then there’s going apeshit mental in his face.

      Which of my memory serves me right everyone was sending klopp to the chopping block for doing at a linesman last season.

      So he should have been sent off and should get a fine.

      • JohnnySnow99@alien.topB
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        11 months ago

        His reaction was fair. It was a match winning chance. Anyone would have reacted the same. How did you react when var gave offside for that Luis Diaz goal? It’s just natural. Referees should go easy on players sometimes.

        • jesuisgeenbelg@alien.topB
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          When Luis Diaz’s goal was given offside did you see a whole group of Liverpool players screaming in the refs face and hitting him on the arms?

          Yeah I didn’t think so.

          When Klopp screamed in the face of the ref it was also because a decision went against us but as the previous commenter said, people were still calling for Klopp’s head.

          The way Haaland (and the rest of the City players) reacted yesterday very much deserves punishment regardless of how poor the decision was. It’s not acceptable.

        • Aromatic-Olive-906@alien.topB
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          11 months ago

          Yeah but again. You don’t scream in the ref’s face. You just don’t. Everyone knows that. You wouldn’t see that in rugby.

          Mistake or not. You don’t do that.

  • LtColnSharpe@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    I know it’s city so the hate against them is real and often justified, but that mistake was pretty horrendous. It’s not Liverpool Spurs level of horrendous but it’s right up there with some of the most egregious this season.

    Players shouldn’t mob refs though, won’t help anything but it’s got to be hard to keep your head in a situation like that.

    • Vegan_Puffin@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      Nah, it’s hilarious. A team built on the back of financial doping and cheating complaining about what’s fair. There is no violin small enough

    • Fantastic-Bother3296@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      It was so weird if he’d have called it back without signalling play on it would have been bad but not horrific. To signal, see the play develop to a chance, then call it back, looks absolutely awful. And a little bit cheaty (sp?) too

    • Icy_Reward_6729@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      Spurs always get favourable decisions.

      I don’t know why but they have been getting the most favourable treatment since VAR was introduced

      • PJBuzz@alien.topB
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        11 months ago

        Dear lord I wish you lot still claiming corruption would go away.

        The referees are ruining games, but you lot make every single moment in-between games completely miserable with this constant bullshit.

        Just STFU.

      • Halfmoonhero@alien.topB
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        11 months ago

        If VAR was all correct it pretty sure data showed spurs would have more points than they currently sit on. It’s just the two big ones went for them and are blatantly obvious. Like they haven’t even had a penalty all season with numerous clear shouts.

    • ICutDownTrees@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      The one decision gone against city this season and we supposed to feel sorry for them, many more called in their favour, remember when Kovacic should of had 2 red cards in one match?

      • LtColnSharpe@alien.topB
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        I’m not really saying we should feel sorry for them. Personally, as a relative neutral, I think it’s shit when it happens to any club, detracts from what was a decent game and furthers the narrative of how inconsistent refs are.

        Like I’m no fan of Liverpool, Klopp especially has always pissed me off, but they were fully robbed and again it stained what was a good game. I’d never celebrate these sorts of things regardless of who it happens to.

    • Retinion@alien.topB
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      Couldn’t give a monkeys.

      City are cheats. They deserve every mistake against them.

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    Yet to see an explanation as to why the ref blew. Was Grealish offside? Surely that’s what VAR is for?

    In either case, I can understand Haaland’s frustration. I don’t condone any physical contact with the ref, but if that was me, you’d bet I’d be pissed off.

    • jesuisgeenbelg@alien.topB
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      Grealish wasn’t offside. Can see on the replay he’s a good metre or two onside.

      Not that I care too much though, I mostly just find it funny that City finally got fucked over by a poor refereeing decision.

      • Sqoell@alien.topB
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        11 months ago

        Finally? City have had a fair few like lost teams. Rashford offside last season to name one

  • oscarx-ray@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    “Blasting” *and striking* referee Simon Hooper. He also hit him on the arms, clearly, as half the team lost control and surrounded him, yelling at him… I seem to recall a couple of teams being disciplined for such actions, and Mitrovic being suspended for the same.

  • Daver7692@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Well VVD got an extra game for a similar interaction so let’s see some consistency there I guess.

    Also Haaland’s tweet won’t win him any favours either.