• I Cast Fist@programming.devEnglish
      812·
      11 months ago

      Get it there, download and play a pirate version instead. Since you legally own the game anyway, you’re not infringing anything (i think)

        • Echo5@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          10 months ago

          You should be able to get it on your account webpage without downloading anything

        • bionicjoey@lemmy.caEnglish
          6·
          11 months ago

          Yar Har fiddle dee dee, being a pirate is alright for me!

          Do what you want 'cuz a pirate is free!

          You are a pirate!

      • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        172·
        11 months ago

        Yah, just give your data to epic for no reason and pirate anyway. Genius plan.

  • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    3714·
    11 months ago

    Or you can get it for less than $7 dollars from a reputable game service, unlike the fucking joke that is Epic Games Store.

    I mean, it’s not like you’re actually going to play it, either way.

      • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        305·
        11 months ago

        EDIT: RE: Valve and Darwinia:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introversion_Software#Financial_history_and_independence

        Darwinia was eventually released in March 2005, but despite a strong opening weekend, sales soon slipped too low to sustain the company. Within six months, the developers were back on UK government benefits until November, when they contacted Valve “on a whim”[10] to try to set up a digital distribution deal on their Steam platform. Valve responded enthusiastically and, following a 14 December 2005 online launch, digital sales, which exposed the game to a new, global audience, kept the company going through to the release of their third game, DEFCON.

        Valve didn’t reach out to Introversion to make demands, they actually saved the company. For a game basically no one had ever heard of and abysmal sales for were about to make the company go bankrupt. Valve didn’t pay for this exclusivity. It is however true that 18 years ago, they had an exclusive game.

        This is a big difference compared to Epic paying 2K for exclusive access to Borderlands 3 so they can secure the profits of a huge franchise. Epic pays big companies big money to secure early profits to exclusive titles. Valve may have technically had an exclusive game, but Epic’s business model is literally paying for exclusive access to the biggest games they can get, so they can get the biggest cut of the sales at the highest price point, before discounts.

        Only one of these two companies is trying to “Pay 2 Win.”

        There really isn’t. This is personal opinion.

        Some of us just have issues with Epic Games. Some others have issues with Valve.

        No private company is really “good.”

        But the argument with Epic is things like:

        • They brought “exclusives” to PC gaming for the first time. Previously, a PC game was a PC game, and it didn’t matter what storefront you bought it from, because it was available at all storefronts. Epic chose to pay companies to restrict their titles just to Epic, in an attempt to move the market towards them.

        • In a similar vein, trying to fight Valve’s dominance, they started giving away free games. They have been firing people left and right because their financials are in the toilet, and yet they’re still pissing away money on free games and exclusives to their store.

        • People who care about access to music and paying artists hate them because they have effectively put a death warrant on Bandcamp, buying them for two years, doing nothing with the product, and then selling it to Hedge Fund fuckies who already shitcanned half the staff and the site is officially on life support. They basically killed the last place you could buy music and make sure all the proceeds went to the artist and not a middle man (Bandcamp Fridays).

        • During all of this, they refused to spend any money on actually improving their fucking game store. Things that have been staples of Steam for a decade now are still on a waiting list of features to be added. The User Experience for Epic Games Store is just bad, bad, bad, bad. There’s no excuse for it, especially when they chose to piss money away on exclusives and free games instead of paying people to produce a better product than Valve has. They refused to even try to release a better product, believing they could buy their way to dominance.

        Do you really want to support a company that doesn’t give a flying fuck about your user experience as a customer and has such bad business plans that they’re letting go tons of staff? It’s bad enough that they had a bad business plan, but it also seems like they’re not very good to their employees, either. Compared to Valve’s “flat” management where there are no managers, or where Newell famously paid the writer for Portal to “be sick” for two years while he had a serious disease. “Your job here at Valve is to get better.” This was before he wrote Portal, no less.

        One company clearly cares about the user experience that their users experience, and one clearly cares about using every tool at their disposal to be the top of the market, everything from paying for exclusives and free games to suing in court to try to carve out a niche for yourself where you don’t have to pay vendor fees.

        Of course, I also encourage you to do your own research and come to your own conclusions. Valve offers a better product, better user experience, and treats their employees with more respect, but it doesn’t mean Valve hasn’t made their own share of anti-consumer decisions.

        • cottonmon@lemmy.worldEnglish
          201·
          11 months ago

          An important detail regarding exclusivity. What made a ton of people pissed off (and justifiably so, in my opinion) is that they bought exclusivity for games that were kickstarted which resulted in the option for Steam keys being removed for these games.

        • otp@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          38·
          11 months ago

          Do you really want to support a company

          I don’t think getting freebies from them counts as supporting them

          • ono@lemmy.caEnglish
            9·
            11 months ago

            I don’t think getting freebies from them counts as supporting them

            I do. Some examples off the top of my head:

            • giving them access to your stored data, by letting their code execute on your computer
            • giving them access to your behavioral data (a form of biometrics), through the same
            • giving them access to your system fingerprints, through both code execution and account creation
            • giving them legal influence over you, by agreeing to their terms
            • giving some of their legal arguments greater weight, by increasing their market share
            • giving them greater sway with publishers, such as when seeking exclusivity deals, by bolstering their user count
            • giving them greater value to investors, by the same

            There are probably other ways in which it supports them. Those are just the first ones to come to mind.

            • otp@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              13·
              11 months ago

              Ok, but they give free games so it’s cool. They’ll surely make a lot of money off of my “never pays us” behavioural data

            • miss_brainfart@lemmy.mlEnglish
              11·
              11 months ago

              I think it’s funny how people create accounts only to never actually spend any money on this platform

            • otp@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              14·
              11 months ago

              Of course it’s part of the equation.

              It’s part of the equation on Steam and GOG, too.

              So unless you bought a physical copy of this game and kept it off the internet (not sure if anyone is collecting any data through FO3 itself), or got it gifted to you through GOG and you don’t have an account there, you’re in the same boat. Except you paid for the game with money in addition to data.

        • Brawler Yukon@lemmy.worldEnglish
          612·
          11 months ago

          They brought “exclusives” to PC gaming for the first time.

          Please stop with this horseshit. Valve and GOG had both done third-party exclusives before EGS was even a thing. Epic absolutely in no way "brought [them] to PC gaming for the first time.

          Yes, they did make them a pillar in their strategy to try to enter a marketplace that was dominated by an 800-pound gorilla - which is a perfectly legitimate approach to take - which neither of the other two did, but they 100% categorically did NOT bring the practice to PC first.

          they refused to spend any money on actually improving their fucking game store.

          Wow, you’re just full of misinformation on this post. They have constantly been updating their store since day one. No, it’s not on parity with Steam (and it likely never will be), but to just flat out say that they haven’t spent anything on improving it when there has been a steady stream of improvements over the years is ignorant at best and actively disingenuous at worst.

          • rambaroo@lemmy.worldEnglish
            21·
            11 months ago

            For real, Steam literally took off because they made HL2 exclusive to it. It doesn’t matter that it’s a first party game, the effect and intent was identical. They could’ve made it generally available but chose not to. They forced people to use their proprietary product to install a game.

            It’s crazy how many people shill for valve on Reddit and lemmy when they’ve already done most of the shit Epic gets accused of.

        • Lmaydev@programming.devEnglish
          111·
          11 months ago

          I totally disagree with the exclusives point.

          So, so many games can only be brought on steam. It’s always been that way.

      • Kayn@dormi.zoneEnglish
        911·
        11 months ago

        It’s just terminally online redditors bringing their anti-Epic circlejerk here. There’s nothing wrong with collecting free games from the EGS.

          • blueson@feddit.nuEnglish
            36·
            11 months ago

            Issue comes up when people start praising Valve as some godlike entity in comparison.

          • Kayn@dormi.zoneEnglish
            311·
            11 months ago

            Feel free to boycott it. Just don’t go around telling others which store they should be buying from like you did at r/pcgaming.

            • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
              123·
              11 months ago

              Literally nobody in this thread told you that you couldn’t. You’re not a fucking victim here. I had an opinion and I expressed it.

              If people online telling you that you’re wrong influences you so much, I’d say that’s a personal problem.

            • CileTheSane@lemmy.caEnglish
              52·
              11 months ago

              Feel free to boycott it. Just don’t go around telling others which store they should be buying from like you did at r/pcgaming.

              “Why can’t you just boycott silently?!”

    • Creat@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      1·
      11 months ago

      You can use legendary worth heroic as a user interface (both open source projects) to download and play games you own on epic, no need to install their software.

    • u/unhappy_grapefruit_2@lemmy.worldEnglish
      79·
      11 months ago

      Epic games store is honestly quite decent m8 I’ve been using it since 2020. Some of the good things I’ve noticed on epic games is

      • free games

      • alot of the sales for games can be cheaper than steam sales

      It’s hardly no different to steam gog or any other game launched out there although it lacks official linux support which is a negative in my books when it comes to privacy I’ll argue they’re both as bad as each other if you think your being smart by avoiding epic games because it’s owned by tencent and your concerned for your privacy then you should stop using steam ubisoft ea gog and the many other launchers as well they’re both as invasive when it comes to your privacy as the other plus hear me out… YOUR NOT THAT IMPORTANT I’m not sure the feds are coming after a 32 year old IT tech support worker because he said wrongthink on a tiny social media network

      If your still super paranoid first uninstall all your game launchers then maybe pirate and look into foss alternatives or try GOG out you can install games on the Web without a launcher and the games don’t have invasive drm

  • sparr@lemmy.worldEnglish
    16·
    11 months ago

    Sadly the checkout dialog has CORS violations that they probably don’t care to fix.

    Cross-Origin Request Blocked: The Same Origin Policy disallows reading the remote resource at ‘https://payment-website-pci.ol.epicgames.com/purchase/xsrf?purchaseToken=XXX&flow=PURCHASE’. (Reason: Credential is not supported if the CORS header ‘Access-Control-Allow-Origin’ is ‘*’).

    Cross-Origin Request Blocked: The Same Origin Policy disallows reading the remote resource at ‘https://talon-service-prod.ecosec.on.epicgames.com/v1/init’. (Reason: Credential is not supported if the CORS header ‘Access-Control-Allow-Origin’ is ‘*’).

    Cross-Origin Request Blocked: The Same Origin Policy disallows reading the remote resource at ‘https://bam.nr-data.net/1/93a8bd5691?a=27815142&v=1.249.0&to=MlxXbUBZWkJUAkVQCgsWcktTUVhCdg5asdfKVVlcQBdEUEwMVFcRSklUQF9dWkU%3D&rst=1610&ck=0&s=67133c36f4b2d060&ref=https://store.epicgames.com/purchase&ap=271&be=712&fe=717&dc=347&fsh=0&perf=%7B%22timing%22:%7B%22of%22:1703387184928,%22n%22:0,%22f%22:712,%22dn%22:712,%22dne%22:712,%22c%22:712,%22s%22:712,%22ce%22:712,%22rq%22:712,%22rp%22:712,%22rpe%22:712,%22xx%22:1056,%22ds%22:1057,%22de%22:1059,%22dc%22:1428,%22l%22:1428,%22le%22:1429%7D,%22navigation%22:%7B%7D%7D&fcp=963’. (Reason: Credential is not supported if the CORS header ‘Access-Control-Allow-Origin’ is ‘*’).

  • Fades@lemmy.worldEnglish
    135·
    11 months ago

    I don’t give a shit what game is free on epic lol. Even if I wanted this game and didn’t already own it no shot am I going to fuckin epic

  • Grass@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    5·
    11 months ago

    Probably can use it to feed the ttw mod for new Vegas that combines the two into a single game. I used gog versions to install the mod on steam deck and uninstalled fo3 after.

    I recommend a significantly stronger CPU computer for the TTW installer though as it converts the audio to be the same format as nv and it took like 5 days on the deck.