• TWeaK@lemmy.ml
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    “You’re making us invade them!!”

    Are you also claiming the US made Russia invade Afghanistan 20 years before the US was there?

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        The American ambassador in Kabul, Adolph “Spike” Dubs, was kidnapped and killed on Valentine’s Day 1979. He had been the American charge d’affaires in Moscow. The killing bore the hallmarks of a political murder. “His death certainly seemed to involve the responsibility of the Afghan government, and probably the Soviets,”

        If you bothered to read your own article, it says Russia started it.

        More than anything, this is all just war mongerers going war mongering. Just like how Winston Churchill personally funded the defence of Nazi war criminals, all because no one wanted to go and invade the USSR with him immediately after WW2. They’re all cunts, simply chasing profits and propping up an industry of death.

        The US didn’t encourage Russia to invade Ukraine, that was already their goal. Just like the US’ invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan weren’t motivated by others but their own desires.

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          If that’s your take away from the article what else is there to tell you. Meanwhile, it was absolutely not the goal of Russia to invade Ukraine, and they spent eight years trying to get the west to see sense. But of course, if you ignore all the history and reality then you end up with an idiotic narrative.

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            No, it was the goal of Russia to conduct a “military exercise” all within Russia’s borders… And then they invaded a foreign nation. You are defending liars.

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              No, I’m telling you basic facts of the situation which are well documented and plenty of western experts such as Chomsky, Sachs, and Mearsheimer agree on. You are either horribly misinformed about the subject you’re discussing or just trolling.

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                  The war is a result of tensions that were largely escalated by NATO, and plenty of experts in the west have been warning about this for many years now. Here’s what Chomsky has to say on the subject:

                  https://truthout.org/articles/us-approach-to-ukraine-and-russia-has-left-the-domain-of-rational-discourse/

                  https://truthout.org/articles/noam-chomsky-us-military-escalation-against-russia-would-have-no-victors/

                  50 prominent foreign policy experts (former senators, military officers, diplomats, etc.) sent an open letter to Clinton outlining their opposition to NATO expansion back in 1997:

                  George Kennan, arguably America's greatest ever foreign policy strategist, the architect of the U.S. cold war strategy warned that NATO expansion was a "tragic mistake" that ought to ultimately provoke a "bad reaction from Russia" back in 1998.

                  Jack F. Matlock Jr., US Ambassador to the Soviet Union from 1987-1991, warning in 1997 that NATO expansion was "the most profound strategic blunder, [encouraging] a chain of events that could produce the most serious security threat [...] since the Soviet Union collapsed"

                  Academics, such as John Mearsheimer and Jeffrey Sachs gave talks explaining why NATO actions would ultimately lead to conflict.

                  These and many other voices were marginalized, silenced, and ignored. Yet, now people such as yourself are trying to rewrite history and pretend that Russia attacked Ukraine out of the blue and completely unprovoked.

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    Russia is so powerless it has no agency and invaded its neighbours because the devious Americans tricked them into it?

    What absolute nonsense. This is a war caused by a pathetic man grasping at delusions of empire.