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    As the article states, the inclusion of the nudes in the newsletter allows a very clear path for criminal charges in D.C. and Georgia under their respective revenge porn legislation. She should receive charges for both.

    In any sane world, a member of congress would be immediately expelled for presenting literal nudes, without permission and in bad faith, of a sitting POTUS’ family member, who is not, nor has ever been a member of the administration or government employee.

    Congratulations to Vladimir Putin and the CCP, as your work to dismantle the U.S. through propaganda and mainstreaming batshit tinfoil-hat insanity through promoting these ridiculous, unserious elected officials like Greene, Paul, Jordan, Comer, Gaetz, Santos, et al, has been incredibly effective.

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        One of the candidates wants to imitate the US when it comes to the 2A, so I think if it comes to that, I’ll arm myself.

        Careful, you’re falling for American propaganda yourself.

        The safest thing you can do by far is to leave, but obviously that’s not an option for everybody.

        If you do arm yourself and you take that gun with you everywhere you go, you’re more likely to just give a far-right scumbag an excuse to kill you than you are to defend yourself.

        Extremely permissive gun laws benefit assholes, criminals and extremists far more than they benefit genuinely good people.

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            So have all the armed minorities in America fixed the problem?

            Has racism been solved or does the state still execute people in the street and claim “He might have had a gun”?

            Are authoritarians scared to enter politics because of all the overweight, heavily armed people waddling around sharing fantasies about killing for “freedom”?

            Are domestic terrorists hunting gay people gunned down in a hail of Good Guy Bullets before they can threaten, trumatise, maim and kill anybody?

            Or do cashiers and children and beaten wives just get shot in the face because their lives weren’t deem as important as profiting off people who can’t secure their guns or control their emorions.

            Morality has nothing to do with it, it simply doesn’t work.

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              Armed minorities are why we have any gun control, the second the black Panthers started walking around we suddenly started caring about gun control.

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                A talking point pushed by right-wing, pro-gun reactionaries who just want to manipulate people into feeling racist.

                The open carry laws they used while policing the police stated that it was legal to carry a loaded rifle or shotgun as long as it was publicly displayed and not pointed at anyone.

                The pro-gun community pushes gun laws that are far more permissive and far more likely to result in an overweight Fox News viewer losing control of his emotions and executing a cashier.

                Especially if that cashier is black.

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        yep while we havnt gotten quite as far as the extreme right in the US, the nutbags here in aus love to focus on similar oddly specific things, like trans people and sex education which is going through a bit of a renaissance of ignorant idiots trying to make it an issue.

        its even funnier because we don’t have a large religious base to even justify it and most of the lunatics pushing it would probably identify as atheist or agnostic

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            It was a joke because that’s the only definition I could find for “Tankish,” but I didn’t think that was what you actually meant. Never heard of it at all nor could I find any reference to it describing friendliness with the 2nd world. Any idea of the etymology and/or where you picked up the term?

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              This is just speculation because it hasn’t been explained definitively to me, but my assumption is that it refers to the Tiananmen square video where it was one dude vs a column of tanks and tankies are people supporting the column of tanks side of that conflict.

              And from there it evolved to mean anyone supporting the Chinese or Russian authoritarian regimes. It might apply more broadly to anyone supporting a regime that uses brutal dissent breaking tactics, though in the west it might apply to situations specifically involving that brutality (France, Britain, and USA have all recently used some brutal tactics, though none of them have deployed tanks to settle a protest/riot that I’m aware of).

              And just to repeat, that’s my current best guess as to the specific meaning of the term, I could be entirely wrong.

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                Tankie is a term British communists used against other British communists who didn’t oppose the USSR invading Hungary in 1956. These days its pretty much any Marxist-Leninist.

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        Fox News is a mouthpiece for foreign government, so…. Same thing.

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          Oi nah get fucked mate, you guys took him in yonks ago.
          But to be fair i believe he isnt considered ‘Australian’ or ‘American’ but more of a ‘cunt to all humankind’.

          Yeah nah your right, sorry we let him slip away.

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            Billionaires aren’t really citizens of any country. They’re kind of small nations unto themselves.

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            We didn’t go far enough. Only supplied non lethal aid the roos and the ostriches after the wild camel cull. The drop bears were trained but I fear we’ll pay when they turn against us all.

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      In any sane world, a member of congress would be immediately expelled for presenting literal nudes, without permission and in bad faith, of a sitting POTUS’ family member, who is not, nor has ever been a member of the administration or government employee. of anyone.

      FTFY

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          Having the prosecution recommend not pressing charges isn’t exactly the same thing as the crime literally not happening. That’s a bit of an assumption.

          If I can make at least 3 assumptions, based on what you’ve said here, do you think OJ was a murderer?

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          Or, alternatively, his rich and powerful father used his connections to pressure anyone who could testify to rethink the consequences of their actions. Because rape is okay if you’re rich and white.

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          Your link does not support your claim that it never happened. It does not even address the question of whether or not it happened, the quality of the evidence available, or the reasons why charges were not recommended. You are clearly reading into this article. Why? Bet you don’t even know.

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            According to the article the supposed witnesses were garbage. Even the prosecution thought their testimony wouldn’t hold up in court.

            Somehow I have to prove a negative, to prove innocence, and yet somehow the parent commenter can make unfounded accusations without proof and be considered legit, worthy of updoinks? You people are in a delusional echo chamber. What a joke of a forum this is.

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      Wouldn’t it be neat if she faced consequences for her actions, instead of the US working overtime to make sure potheads do as much time as they possibly can before they’re finally forced to admit they lied about pot

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    Unfortunately if Matt Gaetz, who actually trafficked and had sex with a minor, is anything to go by, this will hardly shift the needle.

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      Yeah one of them examples where age is JUST a number and jail is JUST a place… sadly, our “leaders” don’t have to follow the same laws.

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        They don’t even have to lead in most cases.

        There’s a reason we used to tar and feather politicians. Bring it back.

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      He’s my Congressman so I’ve had my eye on this, praying for the hammer to drop.

      Here are the facts:

      They couldn’t summon up enough evidence and no one involved would testify. The girl involved now has an Only Fans page, so even if she offered, the prosecution felt that would hurt her credibility. So it’s dropped.

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        The girl involved now has an Only Fans page, so even if she offered, the prosecution felt that would hurt her credibility

        It’s so fucked up that our culture still thinks like this

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      She spreads nothing but hate, I agree the quicker she is out the better we are and we can move forward.

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        But this is what her constituents want… Like yeah they are 100% in the wrong but holy shit, they literally voted for this garbage.

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          I fully agree with you but look up what happened in that district when she was first elected. Her dem opponent was threatened and assaulted and literally run out of town. Stack on that GA being a VERY gerrymandered state and it’s a no lose for her. She’s not from that district and if fact started in another district before they saw how ripe Ranger and Rome GA were for fear tactics and gop shenanigans. My parents live in Ranger and I fucking HATE it there and it’s very possible that the fetal-alcohol fucks nuts that populate that place would elect her any how but don’t discount the tactics used and how unqualified she is.

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            you but look up what happened in that district when she was first elected. Her dem opponent was threatened and assaulted and literally run out of town

            What happened in her first election is abhorrent but are we going to discount she had a 2nd election she also won very handily it was 66% to 34%?

            Stack on that GA being a VERY gerrymandered state and it’s a no lose for her.

            I disagree with this. I’m not disputing GA is a gerrymandered state but she still had to compete in a primary election in 22. She got 69% of the vote out of all other Republicans trying for the 14th district of Georgia. There were 5 other options for a Republican house rep in district 14. They actively chose MTG and this could show us the disengagement of voters lead to these very polarizing figures taking hold and the important of participating at all steps of the election process instead of only focusing on the one big day. Life is stressful and likely full of other important things but we have to keep in mind everything we interact with is political. Its an exhausting mindset but everything we touch, do, eat, see, etc is influenced by politics, many people might not think it that way but it is. There is a reason why the topic of coal power if very contentious. We aren’t using coal for the sake of being evil, we are using it because its a fucking mess. There are clearly the corporate angles but we also have to think at the constituent levels. Coal mining jobs are super high paying jobs with very minimal education requirements, something you can do right out of high school maybe even without any schooling, so those jobs lead to economic movement in those regions and if a mine closes it could possibly kill a whole town’s economic backing. So that is why you have the whole “putting people back into the mines” talk on the republican end and also why Democrat Senator Manchin is very conservative even for a democrat because that is what his voters want even though he does hold up many things when dems had some form of majority rule in senate. I’m not here saying keep coal mining but this is more a point of seeing why people would vote for someone like Manchin. In my view coal is dying a slow painful death and the deregulation people are following is mostly keeping that industry on life support at best since even from a economic point of view coal is losing out to other forms of power generation like natural gas but I can easily say this since my livelihood isn’t massively affected by the coal industry and the runoff effects it may have in my area

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              I don’t disagree but I think this oversimplifies the war on people in souther states through scare tactics and manipulation. These people didn’t vote in a vacuum. They have been radicalizing rural communities for decades for what seems like these very moments we are witnessing. Coal is just another smoke and mirrors tactic to grift and to continue to disenfranchise and promote anti- intellectualism in the American south. I seem to remember in right before covid that there were at least 3 major solar outlets offering free training and better wages to miners. They were ceremoniously met with zero interest cause “solar is woke” or some garbage like that. That level of delusion is the product of decades of grooming. Same with MTGs district, Bobart, etc.

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                That level of delusion is the product of decades of grooming

                I mean its the fact that change is scary. Many of these peoples great great grandfathers were miners. It has been the livelihood of these communities for more than a century now. So while I’m 100% for retraining and the such its hard to convince people who see change as a negative. Stick with what you know is rather normal.

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                  Normal and completely unsustainable. Everything, EVERYTHING changes. If you don’t change with it you are actively holding back human progress for the sake of being afraid of the new. Not to mention that that sentiment is complete fed into and amplified by the gop.

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          I fully agree with you but look up what happened in that district when she was first elected. Her dem opponent was threatened and assaulted and literally run out of town. Stack on that GA being a VERY gerrymandered state and it’s a no lose for her. She’s not from that district and if fact started in another district before they saw how ripe Ranger and Rome GA were for fear tactics and gop shenanigans. My parents live in Ranger and I fucking HATE it there and it’s very possible that the fetal-alcohol fucks nuts that populate that place would elect her any how but don’t discount the tactics used and how unqualified she is.

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            For her first election, yes. She is a house representative though and her term is 2 years. So that would mean in the year of 2022, she was reelected and to my memory Marcus Flowers didn’t drop out. Enlighten me if I am wrong but she won by a hefty lead in 22, 66% to 34%. Like I can accept people weren’t sure about her on the first election in the same way I can sort of accept Trump voters the first time (I still wouldn’t have voted for that idiot but I can see why people would have) after her term though, its really hard to accept that 66% of people in her county said “This is all good”. There were primaries for her as well and she got 69% of the Republican vote. So yes her constituents want this garbage.

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              Again, I think this is looking at this election outside the context of what’s been happening in the south for decades. People voted for her. People stay with their abusers. They need help.

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                They may need help but the first step to improvement is admitting there is problem by the their constituents. Republicans are choosing this culture war nonsense and the constituents are eating it up. There is no simple answer to showing them the proverbial light and us trying to force a solution will only make them retreat further into these radicalized figures.

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                  Nah. I don’t go for this. I’m not saying we force them but coddling and playing into to “poor me” bs is again, tactics, either parroted by voters or truly believed. If you can participate in a culture war, you can participate in a class war as well.

                  I do agree that republicans are going culture war to prevent thing like a class war but blaming the base, at this point, is like blaming a person that drives a car for climate change and not people like DuPont or Delta…

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      Second Amend her. Isn’t that what the bleating ammosexuals keep saying the Second Amendment is for?

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        Let’s stop calling for murder of people we dislike in politics because they’re incompetent moronic assholes, ty

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      I know. Im the same. I think seeing her face is associated with a lot of hateful things she’s said and done and perpetuates.

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      It’s not unintelligent. People are extremely adept at reading facial expressions and microexpressions. Years of evolution / survival instinct development have made us extremely skillful at knowing a lot about a person based on their face / eyes. Our lives depended on it, you see.

      Your survival instincts (which are smart) are telling you she’s an untrustworthy, toxic individual that you probably shouldn’t keep around in your community, and in this case they’re right. Everything else she says and does backs up your instincts too, so this isn’t just a one-off thing.

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      I thought that was her three toed foot.

      I guess i should wear my glasses moreoft…oh, dear god! That face:/!

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        He sure can. I’m thinking 10 million per image should put her in the poor house, then follow that email chain and charge anyone else who shared or forwarded the photos as well. Stop coddling these assholes, and start swinging the big stick.

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    I have little doubt that MAGA republichudism was wholely responsible for the KKKonvoy rallies that cost the Canadian economy literally billions of dollars in a matter of days with their illegal blockades.

    I’d be remiss if I didn’t quote one of my favorite saved comments from that-content-aggregator-which-shall-not-be-named…

    Dude grow up…

    We did it with smallpox

    We did it with polio

    We did it with measles

    I’ve got an “almost” centenarian in the family. Dude grew up watching German zeppelins on the front line of invasion, his folks were both mostly bald from the Spanish flu. When he immigrated to Canada (on a boat) he had to get another round of vaccinations even though he had the full onslaught in the army while babysitting German POWs as they removed landmines from the beaches of his home country. Ask anyone 75+ how many of their childhood friends died from what are now preventable diseases.

    If you think the shit were taking now is untested, what the hell do you think they were handing out back in the 20s and 50s…

    Have you ever traveled abroad? Like not to London, or Tokyo or somewhere nice… But to somewhere shitty like Bangladesh, Nigeria, or Guinea? Do you have any idea how many people die in these countries every year from preventable diseases? You do know that even as a Canadian you legit cant board an aircraft in or out of these places without at the VERY least a yellow fever card right? Before vaccines it was pretty common for a boat to have to sit for a few weeks in quarantine at the destination before people were allowed to disembark… This is not new, this is not unique, this is not something to fuck around with.

    Sit down, shut up, and take your medicine you spoiled little shit.

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      Fun fact!

      The etymology of “quarantine” literally refers to the practice of making a ship sit at berth for 40 days before anyone could disembark. “Quarantina” means 40 days in Italian…

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      Since you brought up ship quarantine, I think we should start doing that with air travel. It’s the number one long-range transmitter of pandemics. It’s the enabler of global pandemics.

      Quarantine-free air travel should perhaps be treated as a privilege of living in a civilization with advanced medicine and monitoring, a privilege that could be revoked mid-flight for all flights in any given region, like the entirety of Europe.

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    It’s amazing how she, Boebert, and Gaetz are three of the biggest idiots probably ever to hold office in the House, yet they’ve been popular by spewing hate. That tells us what drives their base.

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        Yeah, Boebert’s on pretty thin ice if I remember correctly from the last election. I think she barely won. And I think MGT only won because her supporters basically made death threats against her opponent and his family so he dropped out. And Gaetz, well Florida is basically a lost cause at this point. Too many Republicans there and they’ll vote R regardless of how shitty DeSantis makes Florida. There’s already a ton of crap with Disney and immigrant workers, which is hurting business, but they’ll still vote for him (or any R) because of the R.

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          I believe she only won by 537 votes. She was out fundraised by Frisch 3 to 1 this last quarter. I don’t think she survives another race.

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          I’m patiently waiting for Florida to sink into the sea and all those idiots lose their shirts in a very public and agozingly slow way.

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        It will be cathartic for sure, but it won’t stop the next moron parade from assuming office after. These human dumpster fires are a symptom of a problem, not the problem itself. The issue is that people enjoy these sorts of spectacles and the so-called news organizations are fanning the flames. We need an attitude adjustment in the US.

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          Agreed. This seems to hark back to when news pivoted to become entertainment. The advent of the 24 hour news broadcast left lots of hours to fill with “content”. All this bullshit seems to stem from there, creating the “outrage” culture we have now. IMHO, of course.

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      It reminds me of that nut from Africa they showed on the daily show a long time ago, where the guy was telling his tribe what gay people do. “And dey eat da poopoo. Dey eat it like ice cream!”

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    She is fucked. If she sent nudes of Hunter Biden to her constituents then the DOJ will absolutely come after her for that. Insane doesn’t come close to describing what may have happened here.

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    For someone that’s not familiar with US politics. Who is Marjorie Taylor Greene and who is Hunter Biden? Why do they matter?

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      Hunter Biden is President Biden’s son. To be clear, he doesn’t work for the gooberment.

      Greene is a congresswoman, House of Representatives from the state of Georgia. She’s a complete right wing nut. And makes howler monkeys look civilized

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      Marjorie Taylor Green, sometimes called MTG, is a representation and a result of the dumbing down of united state politics. She’s a member of the far right party in this country and pushes conspiracies, racism, bigotry and hatred. She’s possibly the least intelligent person to ever hold federal office in this country.

      Hunter Biden is the son of the current US president. He holds no office and has nothing to do with politics, but because he’s the president’s son, the far right politicians spend a large amount of time trying to find anything they can to make him look bad. He’s had problems with drugs and the law in the past so there’s a decent amount there for them to attack.

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          What’s funny is he didn’t even have any real operational authority. It was a total rich-kid-nepotism “show up a couple times a quarter” gig. The corruption shit is true, it’s just boring regular rich people corruption.

          Dudes a fuckup, but like, yeah. Families have fuckups. My sister is a fuckup. Republicans are pushing on this just because it sucks to have your fuckup sister or kid have their shit put out there for people to see.

          They’re just assholes.

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            Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter both had (have?) fuckup brothers. Imagine if the Republicans had spent this much time probing into their lives just as pointlessly?

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          None of the business stuff in Ukraine is illegal. He’s not a government official, and his dad being president has no bearing on what he can legally take for a job.

          The only reason republicans care is because of trump’s corruption (along with most the rest of his family.) that has the critical distinction of being an actual employee of the federal government

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            Exactly! They’re just manufacturing a narrative by suggesting that this guy is nefarious and doing shady stuff with his drug addiction and nude pics on his laptop that was stolen by a private company.

            Speaking of which, how in the hell did the people who stole his laptop not get charged with theft and identity theft?

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              Speaking of which, how in the hell did the people who stole his laptop not get charged with theft and identity theft? https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/10/15/hunter-biden-laptop-giuliani/ basically they dropped off and then the repair shop gave copies to the FBI (not sure why,) and Gulliani (and that’s definitely illegal.)

              In any case, there’s multiple problems here. The laptop was not last in Biden’s possession. It’s clear the repair shop opened and accessed data on the drive. Given that… it’s not useful as evidence of anything, even if there was a complete manifesto detailing plans for world domination. (there’s not. there’s one email and dick pics)

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                It’s funny, I actually was awarded on Reddit for posting some stuff about the Hunter Biden laptop that won me an argentinium award. I believe it had to do with the fact that an invoice was generated many months after Hunter Biden dropped off the laptop. I still wonder if the laptop was stolen, or how the hell it ended up in the possession of the repair shop and they never returned it to him.

                I used to work in computer repair, and that kind of behavior would be illegal and highly unethical. Unless the repair shop had found evidence of something like CP or other illegal activity (although drug use here would count in that regard), they would try to maintain the integrity of the client’s data and try their best to return their hardware back to the owner.

                A whole situation is really odd.

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                  Yup. If they found things illegal, they’d have to turn it over.

                  But 1) it was for water damage, why are they going through his emails? It’s unlikely that would even be relevant.

                  1. turning it over to the cops is reasonable- fbi might be a bit of a stretch, but sure. Turning over gulianni? That is bad faith. He’s not a criminal lawyer, wasn’t representing hunter, isn’t a law enforcement officer of any stripe. That’s receipt of stolen goods there.

                  2. there’s absolutely no reason to believe those emails or any other material are legitimate. Or, you know, even the same laptop. (It probably is. It’s more convincing that way, slipping the few ‘criminal’ bits on and leaving it to be found.)

                  It all goes to show: guard your data.

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        I would argue George Santos is a solid contender… Otherwise… Spot on. She’s a garbage human being, and, in my opinion, legitimately evil.

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      I only know her name from a JPEGMAFIA song. Pretty sure Hunter is the son of the president of the United States.

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    And while nothing will most likely happen to her for this if it is true, any of us caught doing such things would already be buried under the jail.

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    Incredibly stupid question, but, if she was charged and convicted of this, wouldn’t she have to register as a sex offender? That would be rather amusing.

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      At the federal level, 18 USC 1470 covers it. Penalty is fines and/or 10 years in prison at max.

      Not sure what statutes apply in the District of Columbia, though.