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ANY Christian backing Trump isn’t following Jesus.
And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness.
You’re taking it out of context.
/s
You aren’t following the correct Jesus.
/I wish this was sarcastic.
Supply Side Jesus is on the rise.
Except they don’t even attempt to look like good people. Satan would think he’s been doing it all wrong, he should’ve just said “I’m here to rule over you all and destroy the world, vote for me”.
Didn’t he though? I hear he’s man of wealth and taste. He’s been around for a long, long years and has stole many a man’s soul and faith. [“]
Nah, all he’d have to say is “I hate ns, fs, and uppity cunts too! 'MURICA!”
If there is an Antichrist living with us the closest person would be trump. It’s scarily close and he is even starting to call himself god.
Oh no no no he’s never said he was god. Just sent by god.
You know, like the antichrist
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In my experience, a lot of them don’t need Trump as an excuse not to follow Jesus. I’ve come across plenty of so-called Christians here in the south and lot of them are the most judgmental , racist, and hateful people I’ve ever met.
the most judgmental , racist, and hateful people I’ve ever met.
How is that not like Jesus?
There were stories a few months ago of “Christian’s” storming out of churches for the sermon being “woke”. They were quoting the Bible.
What did Mammon ever do to you? Other than make you pay more taxes than it’s billionaire true believers, lay you off, make you pay Microsoft a subscription…
The top comment on articles like these is always some flavor of No True Scotsman.
Didn’t say they weren’t Christian as that’s a self applied label. But you can’t pretend they follow the teachings of Jesus.
But you can’t pretend they follow the teachings of Jesus.
Very well. Please tell me an example of something they do that is not a teaching of Jesus.
EDIT: Your downvotes won’t change the continuity errors in the Bible or your teachings.
There are four different Jesuses depending on which Gospel you pick, and if you believe in the Trinity, then you are giving Jesus way too much credit considering he’s the same guy who drowned the entire human race.
For those reasons (among others), it never sits well with me when someone tries to declare that someone is or isn’t a Christian.
This entire comment screams “I have no understanding of what I’m trying to say.” You do realize the Gospels are four different perspectives, right. Get three different people to tell you about anything that was in the news last week and you’ll absolutely hear three different stories.
Except that isn’t what happened. Mark built Jesus out of the letters of Paul and various pagan-jewish works. Matthew copied Mark but really liked the Pentauch. Luke copied Matthew and tried to shore up the apostles. John took all three and some local Messiah stories.
None of these people were eyewitnesses, none of these people even talked to eyewitnesses. A copy of a copy of a copy with no original.
Like the whole point of Christianity was to get away from the old testament. The golden rule is the only thing that really matters.
This isn’t true
Matthew 5:17 ESV Jesus said “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
The old testament is still quite relevant. There’s also quite a bit more than the golden rule in the new testament.
For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
Matthew 5:18
The golden rule is the only thing that really matters.
Yeah that thing that was articulated 5 centuries before Jesus supposedly lived and was known in Aramaic at least a century prior by Rabbi Hillel.
How about a petition urging the IRS to disallow the tax-exempt status of religious orgs with leaders who endorse any political candidate?
That’s already the rule, right? They just need to enforce current rules.
The Alliance Defending Freedom video tapes a sermon by a preacher specifically violating the rule and send it to the IRS, trying to bait them into applying the rule because they are confident SCOTUS will declare the rule unconstitutional. The IRS never takes the bait. They’d rather have the appearance of a rule than no rule at all. As it is it is mostly self-enforcing on most congregations.
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The Alliance Defending Freedom video tapes a sermon by a preacher specifically violating the rule and send it to the IRS, trying to bait them into applying the rule because they are confident SCOTUS will declare the rule unconstitutional. The IRS never takes the bait. They’d rather have the appearance of a rule than no rule at all. As it is it is mostly self-enforcing on most congregations.
The Alliance Defending Freedom video tapes a sermon by a preacher specifically violating the rule and send it to the IRS, trying to bait them into applying the rule because they are confident SCOTUS will declare the rule unconstitutional. The IRS never takes the bait. They’d rather have the appearance of a rule than no rule at all. As it is it is mostly self-enforcing on most congregations.
Go for it.
It will be just as much a waste of time as this petition.
Not even saying it’s true, but worth a read.
If nothing else, all these rural Christian congregations have been deceived by a conman real estate developer and reality tv star from NYC. Trump is the ultimate carpetbagger.
It says only one term, so that’ll become a lot less convincing for christians if he wins this year.
Can the Trump supporting Bishops correlate Trumps established behaviors with their expert knowledge of the bible? I am not an expert, but he doesn’t seem to uphold many Christian values. In fact he seems to be anti Christian in his practices.
He actually fits the bill of the anti-christ described in revelations.
It took me a while to find this blog post again. It details many ways he fits. https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/
Thank you for finding this, I read it years ago when it was linked on another comment on reddit and its stuck with me since.
I mean, Jared and Ivanka’s headquarters are at 666 Fifth Avenue.
Doubt. Revelations was talking about Nero. Turns out prophecy doesn’t work.
He upholds Christian Nationalist values.
He tells them that this is their country that was stolen from them.
That’s all they want to hear, and they desperately want revenge.
I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.
1 Timothy 2:12
Seems pretty aligned with his behavior towards the women he raped.
Thousands of pots sign petition calling kettle black.
Get your religion out of our political system.
Shouldn’t the Pope straight up tell this bishops to stay out of politics?
The Pope and also the IRS.
You want… The pope… To stay out of politics? Am I hearing that right? The pope?
Why? He already controls the Supreme Court, wouldn’t it make sense for him to go after the remaining two branches?
The single most Catholic Supreme Court in US history banned abortion and made it easier for tax dollars to go to private religious schools.
The Pope is literally a head of state
Edit, misspelled Pope as pipe
“Ceci n’est pas un pope.”
Doesn’t the government have a law that urges them not to support politicians from the church
Technically the IRS can (should) revoke a church’s non profit status if they are caught campaigning for specific candidates. But it happens all the time regardless and there is rarely a consequence.
Yes , and it is consistantly not enforced.
There should have been hundreds of churches charged over this back in 2016, but the IRS refuses to touch churches, no matter how blatantly they violate the separation.
Well, technically the church itself already has a collection of texts that unequivocally damn behaviours such as shown by Trump. It’s called the Bible or something like that, i believe.
Depends on what passages you read.
I hope the pope condemns Christian nationalism as a manifestation of the heresy of positive Christianity. Or something similar.
the popes have always been in favor of national (catholic) christianity, though. Gives them more power.
The current pope seems to oppose Christian nationalism. He isn’t full liberation theologist but he’s far closer to that than to American bishops.
Personally I think Jesus was lunatic not liar or lord and I think that if he has one saint her name is Dorothy Day. So maybe my opinion as someone who left the religion too soon to dedicate my life to the Catholic workers is a bit biased, but yeah the Catholic Church is on the edge of schism.
Also national Catholicism and Christian nationalism are different. The former is deciding the nation is Christian and the latter is a stance that the nation holds a special place in Christianity. The latter is explicitly the opposite of what Catholicism is
Just wanna add that Dorothy Day is currently under consideration for sainthood in the catholic church, the Pope also used her as an example when speaking to congress of what each one of the representatives should be more like.
I’d say he’s about the closest to liberation theology as we’ve ever had, maybe ever will have but hopefully that isn’t the case.
Oh good! I last looked into her before then apparently and had been under the impression she was sidelined to Blessed permanently.
The Baptists in my family don’t know what “Christian nationalism” means but would like the sound of it, and they basically equate the pope with a rainbow flag. I wish, but this pope isn’t changing minds in the American South, even if he tries.
Oh wow. Thousands you say? Surely they’ll listen…
People think Trump is Christian?
Not a good man. They think he’s the divine necessary man who will bash abortion, women, the blacks, gays, the heretics, mutants and aliens and porn stars, not necessarily in that order. As the good word verdicts. A great christian hero.
(American white evangelicalism and christian nationalism is an abomination on the face of the earth.)
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Seems pretty Christian to me.
why the FUCK does anyone care what a bishop thinks
Because many religious types are sheep led by wolves clothed in the robes of the church
I feel like there was a warning about this somewhere. Eh, what do I know.
See Kenneth Copeland for exhibit A.
So they ain’t a fan of Walmart brand Hitler?
Thousands eh?
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Thousands … ooOOOOoooo
and odds are almost all of them are dems anyways lol
Ding ding ding
Hundreds of thousands will still vote for him.
