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          I mean, that shit won’t get him into any country. So leaving may not be the problem but you gotta arrive somewhere. Unless his plane just circles over the Atlantic Ocean until it runs out of fuel and plummets into the water.

          Although, leaving might also be a problem. You gotta show ID to get on any plane. The first time it comes out, he’s probably getting detained at O’hare.

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            Hugh? You can drive into Mexico and they just ask you where you’re headed.

            If you’re unlucky they do the whole song and dance but you can easily just leave.

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    Oh, really? I bet if he leaves the borders of the US at all he carries a real passport. No customs officer will put up with this. They have zero sense of humor when it comes to documents.

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          How the hell is he not in jail for forging documents? I guess he’s not forging legitimate documents, but he has the entire intent and sells them and tries to use them… Should be in jail on principle, and for selling fake goods.

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            Probably cause it’s not a forgery/falsified doc. It’s just pretend scribbles?

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              It’s still fraud. He’s selling something under false pretenses. He claims these work when they do not.

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                I guess that’s true. But if I sold you a license to perform spells and incantations, and you obviously never successfully do, is that fraud?

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                  I would say it depends on the presentation and point. Are you a board game store selling it as a fun thing? A white elephant gift store? A cute gift shop in Salem? Yea, sell it all day.

                  A horoscope reader upselling it to brainwashed idiots, literally trying to convince them it works? … Yea, that’s fraud. Might not be fraud you could get them found guilty of, since so many laws require a “reasonable person” to fall for it, but we all know there aren’t actually that many “reasonable” people…

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                  Is he advertising it as a fantasy document? That’s the whole point of fraud: fair representation.

                  If someone says, “Hey, you wanna’ by my last shit for $10,000!?!” and someone takes them up on it thinking there’s no way someone would ACTUALLY sell their shit for 10k… they’re totally fine selling, and that buyer is a moron with little legal recourse.

                  However, if someone tells you they’re selling petrified dino turds and gives you a fresh human shit… yea, that’s fraud, even though both are selling shit.

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        "so anyways, we put him in a small interrogation room then just fucking left him there! Long weekend my dude. "

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    I’ll bet that looks real good in his wallet tucked next to the “get out of jail free” card

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    My favorite part is trying to pass off this super official looking /s card with this lame ass cell-phone photo in a zipper jacket lmao

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      Oh it’s much worse than that.

      Imagine if this worked, and people could just exempt themselves from the law by carrying a card that says “diplomatic immunity” on it. Everyone would do it, you’d be crazy not to, even if you weren’t planning on committing crimes, just to prevent the possibility of a (potentially unjust) arrest or conviction.

      And once everyone is above the law, you basically have The Purge, which devolves to more of an Escape From New York kind of vibe, before finally landing in Mad Max territory.

      Or, alternatively, we recognize that the card works just as well for the authorities, who can’t be charged with anything for ignoring your diplomatic immunity.

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        “Diplomatic immunity!”

        “You heard 'em. Cut off their access to public services while we arrange transport to their homeland of… Oh! Heaven! Hey! Have Phil get the cannon ready!”

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        ironically, the state of Texas is trying this "no, laws don’t mean anything’ tactic with the supreme court right now.

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        It might even encourage people to commit crime. I know I’d use it to tape Monday Night Football without the expressed written consent of ESPN and the National Football League.

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      Back when I worked in retail someone tried to get a credit card with a fake “gov” ID. We called the cops. A detective showed up real quick and confiscated the ID while interrogating the guy.

      Tried to get the “provider” out of him and cut him loose. Told us someone has been peddling the IDs and they were on it.

      That was 20 years ago let alone now. So ymmv on that side hustle.

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      I’d check with a lawyer before opening shop. I suspect there’s no law against this, but it may fall under a genetic defrauding the mentally impared.

      You know it’s just a matter of time before someone sells you out to get a plea deal.

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    These people can’t be this braindead. It doesn’t take a genius to understand that countries have to also recognize their political status to make it real in any way other in than their minds.

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      Is this just an America thing?

      Only found out about it recently and it just seems bonkers, like in what state of mind do you have to be to think you can just wish away the laws of the country.

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        It’s also a thing in other countries. In the Netherlands there recently was a news article about someone who got financially ruined because she and her husband stopped paying taxes and rent because they claimed to be sovereign.

        Probably imported the idea from the US, where it’s much more visible.

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          These morons have their own international online echo chambers where they convince each other this shit really works. At least until they find out it doesn’t and that is when they direct their anger towards the state for somehow setting them up.

          It’s the same pattern we see in cults, conspiracies, religion and Apple fans. If there is a way not to be confronted with the truth, different beliefs or just simple opposition, their ideal version of reality will take hold and solidify.

          It’s a dangerous pattern that will only lead to more social unrest if we’re not careful about it.

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      Nation states are a figment of our imaginations. There is no American particle or German substance. Sovereign citizen are just a low budget version of that particular game of make believe.

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        Sure but the point is that for the American one to exist outside of its own little game, the German figment has to agree that it exists too.

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    Bro, this shit doesn’t even work for white people.

    You got no chance.