• dhork@lemmy.world
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    Haley might be the smartest person in the GOP room right now. She got herself a gig in the Trump administration, but one that kept her in NYC and away from most of the crazies in the Trump Orbit. She had to promote Trump’s foreign policy, of course, but had wide latitude in terms of how to do it. She notably had a hard line against Russia while we know Trump’s history with Putin.

    She was capable of doing her job without stepping in anything foul. And she got some one-on-one time with other high-level diplomats. If there is any dirt on Trump and his foreign business dealings, she has it.

    Haley might make a horrible President, but she is not an election denier and she is not in Putin’s pocket, so she already has a few advantages over most of the GOPniks these days.

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      If I had to wager, her plan may be to stay in to the end despite losing every primary, just in case something goes south for Trump legally. Trouble is, he’s going to savage her politically and many of his supporters will never vote for her

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      It would be interesting to see Kamala Harris vs. Nikki Haley in a future election – Two Indian-American woman vying for the US presidency.

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      Not American, so honestly I’d prefer her to be the candidate even if she does beat Biden.

      Obviously Biden vs. Trump is more likely to result in a Biden win, but a Haley presidency is arguably preferable to even the risk of a second Trump presidency.

      If he’s re-elected and undermines NATO, the risk of Russia making a mistake in the baltics, and things getting out of control are very very real. Trump II is quite simply an existential threat at this point.

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        Obviously Biden vs. Trump is more likely to result in a Biden win

        The sad thing is that we’re not sure. Trump voters don’t vote “rationally”, it’s a cult like thing that was cultivated during Biden’s term. They are taught to refute all facts and go by gut feeling instead.

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          Don’t think it started then. Fox News, Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, hell Father Charles Coughlin and the America First Committee. Suspect it’s partly related to that Asimov quote:

          “Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.’”

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        I suspect Trump v Biden would be a tighter race than expected. Trump supporters enthusiasticly show up to vote. The majority of Americans may prefer Biden over trump but will they make the effort to vote for a man they aren’t enthusiastic about?

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          My reasoning is that no one is particularly enthusiastic about Biden.

          People will however turn up to vote against Trump.

          Will people turn up to vote against Haley in as large numbers? I have my doubts.

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      Haley has a much stronger chance of winning the presidency than Trump imo. She could win the independent vote, and Democrat voters may not turn out as much if she’s the alternative.

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    He wants her out so he can start fund raising as the de facto nominee. The other reason he wants her out is that it shows his weakness… even if she loses every race it shows that 30-40% of republican primary voters don’t want him. She should stay in at least until Super Tuesday just to piss him off.

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    Yes, like all the other narcissists, people (in particular women) not doing what he wants really upsets him. This is nothing new.

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      Not just women, but since she’s of Indian descent, I’m sure he thinks of her as “a woman of color”. I’m sure she gets under his skin almost as much as other “disrespectful, uppity, don’t know their place” women like Fani Willis and Letitia James, and I’m here for it!

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    This is smart. She’s probably just sitting and waiting for the Supreme Court ruling. By some rare chance that Supreme Court sides the Colorado ruling. Trump is immediately disqualified for running for President and she becomes the nominee by default

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      It isn’t quite that easy is it? Can’t they simply rule that CO has the right to run their elections how they see fit without weighing in specifically on whether Trump should be disqualified?

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        They have to walk a very fine line, because too far in either direction fucks them. Give the states too much power and they can kick off trump. Give the states too little power and Democrats can counterattack voter suppression

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        It’s not that simple. It sends a message to the entire nation. If it’s held up every voter is aware he is an inferior candidate. And if it doesn’t, the GOP can say “look how bad they are at it”.

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          That’s true, I just don’t see how they don’t uphold it. Then again, the GOP lives for hypocrisy and their chosen few run the court now so…

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    Why would she drop out, she’s the leading eligible candidate.

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    Trump’s long list of Achilles heel’s include rain, wind, 3degree ramps, bottled water and vocabulary.

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    Ya, 2020 was the election. That was BEFORE January 6th. Until Trump is in jail, we will continue to have this threat. So far there are 93 indictments. We just need him in jail and then we can breathe slightly easier.

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        People are basically saying that on every single news story about the man. People are constantly talking about how anybody else would be in jail for the shit he’s done.

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        These things take time to do right. If they rush, they make it more likely that he’ll get off on a technicality or plausible deniability that they didn’t prepare for because everyone was so focused on getting him right NOW. You need to collect evidence and you need to build a case, and that case has to be air-tight or else the prosecution looks like a bunch of jackasses who wasted public money on an “innocent” man. He cannot be able to win this. The constant stalling and threats of violence from an angry mob of millions of magats gets in the way too.

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          All that while some poor persons’ trial takes like a day. Like I get it’s more complicated but all that it’s proving is that the justice system is a multi tier system.

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        It looks Al Capone over 2 years to indict Al Capone and he had 22 indictments. Trump had 93 and across multiple states. Trump took about 3 years to bring his first indictment. So it’s not far off from previous indictments.

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    Haley can sue for malicious intent and defamation of character, after a few weeks of Trump being infuriated.

    Now, we know how much it takes for Trump to shut his trap.

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      Given the polling she’s not going to win the primary… unless something unprecedented happens. Something that’s never happened in a primary before, like for example, the front-runner gets convicted of a crime during the campaign.

      Which I suspect is the reason she’s staying in.

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    I’m hoping that some Dem billionaires are funding her, just to annoy the shit outta Donnie Dipshit.

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      That is sort of happening minus the Dem part. She’s got the Koch money machine behind her. Which is disgusting and should make clear she’s controllable.

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        I would laugh out loud to see her goad Donnie into a heart attack live on stage.

        But I wouldn’t vote for her in a million years.

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            My partner and I were just talking about going to vote for her if she makes to it our states primaries.

            My state has open primaries so I can vote in either parties primary. I’d never actually support either of them but tactically, it might be smarter for me to go support Haley (vote against Trump). My state went for Trump by almost 15 points in 2020, Biden isn’t going to win here. But if Haley can get to the general, I’m 90% sure Trump runs as an independent and splits the GOP vote.

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            Well yes of course.

            I get the feeling she might be playing up to the base but would dial that shit right back in office.