• Ranvier@sopuli.xyz
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    You know Osiris? Kind of like that, but it’s in Israel instead of Egypt, and there’s only one God, who has two different forms, one in heaven but also is a dude down on earth, until eventually it’s revealed he has three different forms not just two. Also unlike with Egypt, a significant lack of animal heads, all just like normal human heads. Except the holy spirit who’s like a ghost or something. Nailed it.

    Wait you don’t know Osiris? Crap, let’s talk Quetzalcóatl then. So he’s like this giant snake with feathers…

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    “right, so he comes back to life after 3 days… I guess its kind of like in one of those zombie movies you like so much? But then there’s a bunny too you see, and he gives out chocolate and jelly beans. No, there wasn’t any chocolate or jelly beans in the Bible. Nor any bunnies either… The bunny is actually from an older thing from pre Christianity but we just kinda added it in afterwards. Yeah that happens a lot. Does it all make sense to you now?”

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      That doesn’t even cover the issues of explaining how they figure out what DAY it is every year.

      “Okay, so they start by figuring out when the Earth has the most direct sun on the the Tropic of Cancer… no, not the disease, a giant crab… it’s a line of latitude approximately 23°27′ north of Earth’s Equator, right? Yes, there’s math. Anyway, the take the day the sun is strongest and weakest, called the solstices, and … the solstices… It doesn’t matter, It mattered for agriculture back then, especially when spring and fall were, which are the calendar dates in between them, yeah? So the spring equinox ,., that’s what they call the ‘in between solstices,’ equinox… which is March 21st or 22nd or something. What? No no, I am explaining how they figure out when easter is. I haven’t forgotten. So now we know when the spring equinox is, so now we look at a chart of the moon, and figure out when it is full. Full. No, not ‘full of what?’ it’s full meaning that you can see all of in the sky. Well one half of it, actually. The sunlit half, but it’s FACING us, see… The sun lights up and it shows as a circle instead of a crescent or something. Moving on, they look at the FIRST Sunday AFTER the FIRST full moon that occurs on or after the spring equinox. Except if the full moon falls on a Sunday, then Easter is the next Sunday. Why? Well, St. Bede the Venerable, the 6th-century author of Historia ecclesiastica gentis Anglorum (‘Ecclesiastical History of the English People’), maintains that the English word ‘Easter’ comes from Eostre, or Eostrae, the Anglo-Saxon goddess of spring and fertility. That’s where the Spring Equinox comes in. NO I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP!”

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      I’ve always assumed that Scotty beamed him up to the ship where he spent 3 days in medical having Bones fix him before they beamed him back down.

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      6 months ago

      right, so he comes back to life after 3 days…

      I never understood how Friday to Sunday is 3 days. There’s one full day between them.

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        I believe the prophecy was “on the third day He will rise again” not after 3 days.

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          I still feel like most people would count Sunday as the second day. Unless musicians are the ones counting.

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            Days started at sundown for the jews at the time. If he was killed during what we consider the day time Friday, then maybe Friday sundown is second and sat sundown third? Googling it, I see some sites agree, or say that he might have been crucified after Sundown Thursday, and in the tomb Thursday night, which would be Friday.

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              Not sure but I think you are right here. The Orthodox calendar still works this way.

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    Me, a heathen, explaining how my family does Easter to my Jewish wife:

    “We dye eggs and hide them then eat a bunch of chocolate and jellybeans.”

    “Wtf? Why”

    “I dunno”

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      It’s a fertility festival, hence all the eggs and bunnies and references to fucking. Has nothing to do with christianity, aside from they decided to drop the bummer message that no, easter is because Jesus died.

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      I’ve heard the term Easter originates from Eostre which is a pagan goddess of the spring. That being said the reference is exclusively an English/Germanic thing. The Orthodox church uses the more ancient term of “Pascha” which derives from “Passover”. So you are partially right but no Christian versed in their history would say it takes away from the holiness of the holiday. The Orthodox church would often observe pagan customs and peacefully orient them towards Christ. As a result the church has a rich tapestry of jurisdictions with their own liturgical nuances. Easter is about Christ defeating death. Glory to God.

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      I’m not too familiar with it, but does it really work? I feel like just the first point, ordinary world, has some huge issues

      The hero begins in a situation of normality from which some information is received that acts as a call to head off into the unknown

      I think Jesus was always seen as special, even before birth. If we go with the Biblical story I mean

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        It’s just another myth that describes a mythical hero on their journey. It’s too easy to take everything too literally, or too metaphorically. I use a lot of judeochristian metaphors, allegories, etc, but I imagine if I’d been raised Buddhist, I’d use a lot of Buddhist metaphors, or any other religion. I’m aware a lot of people will take offense to that, and that’s not my intent. Imo, getting hung up on the veracity misses the point the story is trying to make, in the first place. Imo, that’s what the “ears to hear, eyes to see” metaphor means.

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    Me: noticing that people still care about this nonsense of a holiday.

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      It’s one of the biggest Christian holidays so if you’re in a Christian country or around Christians, people might care. Also, holidays are always nice

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          I don’t believe in any of Christianity’s main tenets, including belief in a God or to Jesus as the son, but sure. It’s a take.

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        I actually had no idea it was Easter until I started seeing posts about it.

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            Northwestern part of the USA. I just don’t spend time around religious people I guess.

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              Me neither, but it’s just a culturally significant thing in Finland so you’ll see it in calendars, you realize it from getting a holiday from work/school, it’s mentioned casually in media a lot (traffic news, weather talking about “Easter weekend’s” weather) and so on. I would’ve imagined it was prominent enough in the US that it’d be hard not to notice.

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                I live in one of the more secular cities so it doesn’t really get talked about so much in daily life. I am thankful for it.

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                Right? Even here in Czechia, which is like in the TOP 3 most atheistic countries in the world, everyone knows it’s Easter. And no one has a problem with it (nor with Christmas), everyone accepts is as part of cultural heritage. Some people in this thread have such a weird take.

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                  Americans can be weird sometimes, especially on Lemmy. Just go with it, I’ll say

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              I think part of the general 🤷‍♀️ this year is how early Easter happened. Even though spring also started early, it just felt way too soon to be Easter.

              But also, you’re lucky you don’t just… have this crap shoved down your throat everywhere you go. In my northwestern US town, the local cult I mean mega church rented out the big convention space and put signs up all over town.

              Also, maybe people with kids gotta still care. Kids are excited about everything that they can possibly celebrate.

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          I was quite surprised that my FB feed was devoid of “He Has Risen!” posts. I also did not do my BBQ bunnies post this year.

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        Also, holidays are always nice

        Holidays are not nice - it’s the capitalism they give us a miserly break from that is horrible.

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      You know if people want to eat candy, go to church and spend time with fam in peace, who am I to say no even if I don’t buy into it?

      Fun is allowed, with or without us