Honest question, why are people so obsessed with living? I’d want to be euthanized at the first sign of dementia. Just give me like a week to get my affairs in order. It’s bizarre that people would rather exist as mindless husks than die peacefully at a time of their choosing.

Maybe it’s fear. Most humans live and think like animals whose impulse to survive overrides rationality. Or is there another explanation?

I genuinely want to understand.

Pointing out that killing women and children is bad is “divisive.”

Amazing.

That could be the case with extremely rare diseases, but sadly that’s not the case here.

You’ve really never encountered a biology textbook, huh?

Give them their Darwin awards.

This kind of thing tends to happen when frugivorous apes attempt to eat meat for no reason.

Edit: the replies confirm that humans really are one chromosome away from Chimpanzees. Amazing.

Let me again recommended this textbook on Ethics: https://global.oup.com/ushe/product/living-ethics-9780197608876

The death penalty is chapter 20.

Also,

1. “Death” isn’t (or should not be) a punishment. We don’t “punish” rabid dogs when we euthanize them. Sometimes the alternative is simply worse.
2. Earlier you said that “evil cannot be quantified” and therefore doesn’t exist. However, quantifiability is not an ontological prerequisite. If it were, then almost nothing would exist, including you and me.
3. You don’t need to resort to straw men. Respond to my arguments instead of arguing with yourself.
4. Moral claims wouldn’t be “arbitrary” unless nihilism is true, which you’ve denied.

The only person using rhetoric here is you. There are morally depraved people out there whom we colloquially refer to as “evil.” I don’t know why you insist on having a semantic argument. If “[moral depravity] does not exist,” as my interlocutor claims, then nihilism would indeed be true.

I would also like to point out that the ethical arguments against the death penalty in the scholarly literature are very weak and it remains an open question whether the death penalty is advisable on practical grounds. Morally it’s unlikely that any good argument exists to make it impermissible to kill “evil” people. You can check out the latest edition of any textbook on ethics, such as Living Ethics by Schaffer Landau, which syllogizes a variety of arguments on this topic.

To be fair, he wasn’t wrong.

What’s extra comical about this claim is that if nihilism were true, as you claim, then a fortiori the death penalty would be completely permissible.

Evil people sure are glad they have you to stand up for them.

That’s a classic.

Worthless system. After the initial threats and subsequent violence that guy should have been on death row. Idk why we cut people so much slack. Seriously.

Entrepreneurship. Getting people what they need in a hostile environment.

Cool, I feel the same way about them.

Wonderful news

Your hormones are out of whack. Get yourself tested. It’s not expensive and unaddressed endocrine problems are really shitty.

Fun fact, the moral permissibility of abortion has far and away the most consensus among philosophers. Literally philosophers are more confident that abortion should be permissible than that the external world exists.

As such, you can use opinions on abortion as a litmus test for sociopathic tendency since it’s such an easy moral question. In doing so, however, you’d be confronting the fact that 30% of Americans are moral black holes from whom no rational opinion can be extracted. In that context, slavery, misogyny, religion, and all the evils of humanity suddenly make sense.

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