• Streamwave
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    1 month ago

    I think we can all agree that the Jews and only the Jews have the right to determine what that phrase, which they coined, meant to them.

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      1 month ago

      By which you must mean only the super hardcore Zionists right? Because I’m pretty sure these guys disagree with your definition. Pretty sure Stefanie disagrees. Oh look, more disagreement.

      Cherry picking hardliner writing to try and coopt a common phrase isn’t very cool. Especially if you’re using it to deny a genocide.

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        1 month ago

        You can always find fringe groups. It’s a bit pathetic to so openly signal that you know that’s what you’re doing. You’ve picked massively marginal, tiny and unimportant groups. It’s really embarrassing for you man. I mean, really? Boston Review? C’mon man, grow up.

        How many Jewish groups share your opinion that the Jews alone, among all the peoples of the world, have no right to national self-determination?

        And I swear to fucking God if you add a Naturei Karta link, a group of less than 2,000 members globally, you will have problems.

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          I never said Jews don’t have the right to Self Determination. Everyone has the right to Self Determination.

          Including the Palestinians.

          And you’re going to argue that hardcore Zionists are the majority of Judaism? With zero proof? and call my sources embarrassing? What is this the school playground? Are you rubber?