• sandbox@lemmy.world
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      9 days ago

      hello, I’m a vegan, I try not to annoy people because I know we’re all going through a lot of shit, but since you asked, you should know: the level of suffering caused by the animal agriculture industry is so extreme and horrific. Like, think of the worst torture imaginable, and it’s worse. And they subject thinking, feeling beings to that. Think about how angry you would feel if you saw someone abusing a dog. Now imagine that on a global, mass-production scale.

      The problem is that human brain is really good at protecting itself from having to deal with the mental anguish of knowing that you’re responsible for suffering, so you’ll come up with any number of reasons to excuse your behaviour - it’s natural, it’s the circle of life, etc. etc. but that’s all just excuses. You let other living being suffer so badly because you like how they taste, and you can either accept that fact or you can change.

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        8 days ago

        I accept the fact. I raise my own animals. They dont suffer. Probably live a better quality of life than I do.

        The rest of what you said was blahdiblah as fuck and is exactly the reason I think vegans are all annoying as shit. I will enjoy my meat .

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          Yeah that’s one of those excuses I was talking about. Everyone always consumes animal products from their uncle’s farm. They never, ever buy animal products from the store, or from a restaurant, or fast food, or whatever. Nope. All the animal products you consume are 100% from your uncle’s farm and they’re all mega happy, and you know them all by name!

          lol

    • Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de
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      9 days ago

      Trans: e.g. because a lot of people, including people like Elon musk, lose their shit when presented to the idea that if trans-people are trans, that he, as an non-trans-person, is the opposite of trans which is cis.

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        8 days ago

        Just words that dont really.make sense to what I said. Wtf has elon got to do with anything.

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          Okay, you might actually don’t understand, musk owns one of the biggest social media and musk stated that on the platform the word “cis” is considered a slur. Now you might think what does that have to do with trans people if he is against the word “cis”. Well his daughter is trans-gender and musk insist that the woke mob killed his son as he refuses to acknowledge his daughter. His daughter doesn’t want any relation at all with her father. He keeps deadnaming her. So it is fair to assume the he isn’t very supportive of his daughter. So to sum it up, he is so against trans that the idea of being cis (so the opposite of trans) is too much of an acknowledgement of transgender people.

          So why does he matter? Like I said, owner of X, Restricting the speech of many people because of he is too sensitive to handle cis due to his fear(?)/disgust(?) for trans.

          So trans people are faced with the reality that some of the most powerful people on the planet are so much of a fucking snowflake and so much against their existence that even “cis” is a problem for them.

          That is a good reason to be “annoying” by protest and ridicule these people.

          Now musk is only one person but it isn’t particularly difficult to find many many more.

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      8 days ago

      Women and trans people face rampant discrimination, and the treatment of animals in the meat industry is really upsetting.

      You know, pretty obvious reasons if you think about it

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        Virtually every group faces discrimination in some way somewhere. No one mentioned women. I think its definitely where you are. Certainly women where I am have as much opportunity as anyone else, and are not considered second class to men. The 1970s were like that. Most of the world grew up. I hate how everyone now is a generalist and just spews the same echo chamber shit as everyone else.

        From my perspective trans aren’t a problem. Its those crazies trying to force 372 genders on people. And I know a post-op mtf who also thinks all that new age gender bullshit is just that.

        I’ve met vegans, yeah they were nice enough but they were trying to guilt everybody at least once to consider the animals. Of course… This doesn’t account for those I met but didn’t tell me.

        Most of the american politics and confused gender shit is where I see negativity on the net.