• Syldon
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    9 months ago

    There is blame on both sides here. What HAMAS did was abhorrent, egregious war crimes. They should be brought to justice. But we have ignored the war crimes Israel has committed consistently for years now. Two wrongs do not make a right.

    It also needs to be recognised that HAMAS have done this to prevent closer ties. They did not like how SA were in talks with Israel. Without conflict HAMAS has no reason to be here. Any actions Israel take need to understand that this would be playing straight to the outcome HAMAS wants. HAMAS are showing they are nothing more than a group of gangsters, who depend on the conflict to keep themselves in power.

    Palestine needs a two state solution. One that does not involve in one nation subjugating the other. Israel needs its security. The UN needs to step up and start playing a role in this. We cannot continue to resort to wars to resolve differences.

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        9 months ago

        Hindsight is always a wonderful thing. The Taliban were created or at the very least heavily supported by the CIA. Iran is a result of US interference in the ruling of the country. The West are funding Ukraine in a big way, and yet we were critical of certain practises very recently. Ukraine in turn are supplying weapons to Russian revolutionaries.

        It is easy to be critical after the smoke is cleared. The reality is that if you arm and train a group then they become a weapon. You only have good faith that this weapon will not be turned on yourself.

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          Lol what. You dont need hindsight to know that funding the most radical religious fundamentalist group to stop more populous left wing parties is a bad idea.

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        9 months ago

        That is exactly what war crimes are. War crimes are a step beyond murder.

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        You are falling for atrocity propaganda again. No, Palestinian freedom fighters did not go “one by one” slaughtering babies.

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          You are falling for atrocity propaganda

          And on what authority can you say what did or did not happen? Were you there?

          I have zero credibility to say what actually happened, and neither do you.

          But you are now asking people to disbelieve their own eyes and ears, because it’s 2023 and (un)fortunately many of these atrocities have been caught on camera. Most of it’s on tape my man.

          Palestinian freedom fighters

          Nobody was fighting for Palestinian freedom in this weekend’s terrorist attack. You don’t win your freedom by indiscriminately massacring innocent civilians. Anybody with more than two neurons can see that Palestine is worse off today than it was a week ago thanks to the actions of Hamas terrorists.