Exclusive: UK climate campaign group Possible calls for ‘polluter pays’ tax based on vehicle size

The increasing popularity of ultra-heavy SUVs in England means a conventional-engined car bought in 2013 will, on average, have lower carbon emissions than one bought new today, new research has found.

The study by the climate campaign group Possible said there was a strong correlation between income and owning a large SUV, which meant there was a sound argument for “polluter pays” taxes for vehicle emissions based on size.

  • Vegoon@feddit.deEnglish
    2·
    8 months ago

    And the Rivian R1T is 6949 pounds.

    But there is the dacia spring with 2304 pound.

    EV does not automatically have to result in huge heavy cars.

    • Kecessa@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      11·
      8 months ago

      Top speed of 125kph, 0-100kph in 19 seconds… Sure, city cars don’t need to be as heavy but then why need a car at all?

      • Vegoon@feddit.deEnglish
        2·
        8 months ago

        “Everyone in the city needs their own car” was not the argument I made, just as your comment did not mean to say that everyone who does not live in the city needs a 3.5 ton truck.

        • Kecessa@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          12·
          8 months ago

          They don’t, but an EV that’s usable in the highway weights as much as a truck. If you want to compare the Spring to other types of vehicles you need to compare its weight to cars in the same category and then you realise that it’s heavier than the equivalent gas car…

          • Vegoon@feddit.deEnglish
            21·
            8 months ago

            I have seen Spring and Renault Zoe on highways, in Germany none the less. If your argument is you need big fast cars for highways I don’t see it that way.

            • Kecessa@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              11·
              8 months ago

              Sure, I’ve seen a 2CV on the highway, it’s not what it’s meant for and it’s not safe for the person driving it. The Spring at 110kph has a range of 145km in good weather…

              And again, you’re not comparing the car to an equivalent gas model, you’re just trying to prove that EV cars can be light by using the smallest model you can find and in this case, as I already mentioned, the equivalent gas car is still lighter so the EV still wear the roads more than the gas equivalent, which was the original point.

              • Vegoon@feddit.deEnglish
                11·
                8 months ago

                Because I don’t want the equivalent models. Never wanted them. They are absurd.

                • Kecessa@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                  1·
                  8 months ago

                  Then I don’t know why you felt the need to add your opinion to the discussion because if the gas equivalent is absurd then so is the EV version.