• Fudoshin ️🏳️‍🌈
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    Rule 5 (“No baiting or sealioning or promoting an agenda”)

    That has the problem of blocking genuinely stupid questions that could be used to educate away ignorance. Instead the only people willing to answer their questions are nut jobs with an agenda. E.g.

    Do black people sun burn?

    Would get downvoted for being racist cos everyone must know the answer to this (I don’t)

    Where does the ‘Jewish conspiracy’ originate from?

    Everyone would assume you’re antisemitic instead of educating you on conspiracies by Nazis and Russian slike The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. But you know who does answer? Those conspiracy theorists who are more than happy to give you (wrong) answers!

    Do women get horny?

    Everyone assumes an ‘incel agenda’ cos it’s OBVIOUS what the answer is. No it’s some poor 13yo kid who’s unsure about things so they asked. But you know who does answer (wrongly) those questions liberally? Andrew Tate is FULL of answers and sends them down a very dangerous rabbit hole.

    I can’t help feeling a lot of the modern shift towards alt-right bollocks is an almost elitist attitude that everyone has an agenda and there’s no such thing as ignorance anymore. I’m sure that was QAnons next level goal. Sow distrust in people so they refuse to answer questions (downvote, shutdown, ignore) while providing (wrong) answers to people themselves.

    As I’ve gotten older I’ve come to realise Hanlons Razor covers SO much more than people realise.

    Stop assuming malicious “agendas” behind everything. At the least don’t downvote things. At best answer people genuinely.

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      To answer the three bolded questions, yes they sun burn, the birth of Christianity, yes and possibly more often than men do.

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        People with darker skin do get sunburnt, but it tends to take longer than for people with lighter skin.

        It’s important to note that this is for light vs. dark skin, not just “black” vs. “white” people.

        Some white people can be darker, and some black people can be lighter. It depends more on how much melanin is in someone’s skin, not necessarily which parts of the world their ancestors came from.

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      That has the problem of blocking genuinely stupid questions

      It sure does. If only people would avoid trying to slip shit under the radar, there’d be no reason to consider genuinely stupid questions with such suspicion.

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      I didn’t say I’d downvote in those situations. I would guess that Rule 5 needs to exist for a reason. Without it the community could get overrun with ragebait posts. Personally I wouldn’t consider any of your examples questions to be ones that violate Rule 5, but I’m not a mod and I don’t make or enforce the rules. I also wouldn’t downvote such a question myself, but I would consider reporting it if it seemed like the OP was consistently trying to pull the conversation into fractious territory. Anyway, if we want to to discuss the rules and downvoting vs. reporting, that should probably go in a meta post.

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      The Protocols of the Elders of Zion

      Every so often, Robert Evans from Behind the Bastards mentions this. I want to know what it is so badly, but also don’t want that shit in my search history

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        I’ve been on the internet since '98, I’ve had worse in mine so here ya go rofl (mind the wikipedia notations, I wanna inform but I’m also lazy):

        The Protocols of the Elders of Zion (Russian: Протоколы сионских мудрецов), or The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion (Протоколы собраний ученых сионских мудрецов), is a fabricated text purporting to detail a Jewish plot for global domination. Largely plagiarized from several earlier sources, it was first published in Imperial Russia in 1903, translated into multiple languages, and disseminated internationally in the early part of the 20th century. It played a key part in popularizing belief in an international Jewish conspiracy.

        Beginning in 1933, distillations of the work were assigned by some German teachers, as if they were factual, to be read by German schoolchildren throughout Nazi Germany,[1] although the text had been exposed as fraudulent by the British newspaper The Times in 1921 and by the German newspaper Frankfurter Zeitung in 1924. Today, it remains widely available in numerous languages, in print and on the Internet, and continues to be presented by antisemitic groups as a genuine document. It has been described as “probably the most influential work of antisemitism ever written” since it emerged from Russia shortly before World War I.[2]

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          Holy shit thank you. I’m always in the car or somewhere where you can’t just casually look something like that up, and by the time I get home I forget. Also the whole feeling awkward about looking it up. It seems like one of those oddly specific things where you kinda have to already know what it is to ask about it (if that makes sense), so it seems suspicious to be asking questions about it