6 examples of a trans person also being a sex pest doesn’t mean that all of them are, and it certainly doesn’t mean that granting legal protection and freedom to transgender people causes women to get assaulted/harassed by them. Do you know how many examples of cis men being sexual predators we could find in just a few minutes of googling things like “pastor arrested” or “republican senator arrested”. Does that mean we should start making it illegal for people to identify as republicans in public? should we make it illegal for the clergy to get anywhere near children? Maybe we should, but you won’t see any of these “wont somebody please think of the children” types calling for either of those, even though they’re clearly bigger threats statistically.
6 examples of a trans person also being a sex pest doesn’t mean that all of them are
I agree.
But there are plenty more than the 6 covered in this video… Not regarding assaults, but regarding general sexual behavior towards minors, see public nudity at pride parades, “drag shows for kids”, kids themselves featured in drag shows, etc. Bizarro world, indeed…
certainly doesn’t mean that granting legal protection and freedom to transgender people causes women to get assaulted/harassed by them.
I don’t believe anyone implied that. The video implied that allowing trans people into whichever bathroom they choose to enter was considered “safe” but this doesn’t constitute “legal protection and freedoms”.
Trans people, in the US, have just as many “legal protections and freedoms” as any other normal person. The aspect of this discussion where the matter at hand becomes controversial is that you might think men pretending to be women should be allowed into legally protected spaces that are specifically for women, whereas anyone with a moral compass would see that this ideology is fundamentally flawed.
I don’t want you to think that I am not empathetic to the complexity of the situation. I think it is very important to consider our options moving forward… I’ve asked this question a few times in other discussions but I’m always willing to hear a fresh take on it.
Men and women are segregated for specific reasons regarding bathrooms and locker rooms. So when we have a group of people which can freely transverse these spaces, there is reasonable concern. What needs to happen to ensure that all persons are free and comfortable in their public spaces? Should we be erecting new public facilities that cater specifically to trans people? Do we need separate spaces for both trans men and trans women? Similarly, should we also make spaces for gay persons?
They aren’t.
6 examples of a trans person also being a sex pest doesn’t mean that all of them are, and it certainly doesn’t mean that granting legal protection and freedom to transgender people causes women to get assaulted/harassed by them. Do you know how many examples of cis men being sexual predators we could find in just a few minutes of googling things like “pastor arrested” or “republican senator arrested”. Does that mean we should start making it illegal for people to identify as republicans in public? should we make it illegal for the clergy to get anywhere near children? Maybe we should, but you won’t see any of these “wont somebody please think of the children” types calling for either of those, even though they’re clearly bigger threats statistically.
I agree.
But there are plenty more than the 6 covered in this video… Not regarding assaults, but regarding general sexual behavior towards minors, see public nudity at pride parades, “drag shows for kids”, kids themselves featured in drag shows, etc. Bizarro world, indeed…
I don’t believe anyone implied that. The video implied that allowing trans people into whichever bathroom they choose to enter was considered “safe” but this doesn’t constitute “legal protection and freedoms”.
Trans people, in the US, have just as many “legal protections and freedoms” as any other normal person. The aspect of this discussion where the matter at hand becomes controversial is that you might think men pretending to be women should be allowed into legally protected spaces that are specifically for women, whereas anyone with a moral compass would see that this ideology is fundamentally flawed.
I don’t want you to think that I am not empathetic to the complexity of the situation. I think it is very important to consider our options moving forward… I’ve asked this question a few times in other discussions but I’m always willing to hear a fresh take on it.
Men and women are segregated for specific reasons regarding bathrooms and locker rooms. So when we have a group of people which can freely transverse these spaces, there is reasonable concern. What needs to happen to ensure that all persons are free and comfortable in their public spaces? Should we be erecting new public facilities that cater specifically to trans people? Do we need separate spaces for both trans men and trans women? Similarly, should we also make spaces for gay persons?
What specific reasons?