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    8 months ago

    The mother can choose whether or not to get pregnant. If a mother wanted to smother her child after birth, it wouldn’t be okay. I don’t see how abortion is any different

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      8 months ago

      It’s different since you claim that a couple of cells around implantation are the same as a born child. Faith not even once.

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        8 months ago

        I didn’t say it was the same. Stop being disingenuous. They are different in the same way a newborn and an adult are different.

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          It’s so funny since even in your response, claiming that I’m disingenuous yous till compere a couple of cells to a newborn. In the end you value the well being of a couple of cells over that of a women. By the way since - Jesus was a Jew, he was pro abortion, it’s a fundamental right for women in Judaism.

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            8 months ago

            Jesus was pro abortion? 🤣 That’s a new take! And you’re calling me disingenuous

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              He was a Jew, Judaism has a much more liberal stance on abortion. But that is more of a joke. Since our discussion kind of runs into nowhere - with you still claiming few cells are more important than a women, and not given any further information on why.

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                8 months ago

                Source for Judaism having a much more liberal stance on Abortion?

                I didn’t say they are more important. They have equal importance. A woman’s choice to an abortion isn’t worth more than that life.

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                  Source for Judaism having a much more liberal stance on Abortion?

                  Wikipedia? Like that’s a simple question just a google search away.

                  I didn’t say they are more important. They have equal importance. A woman’s choice to an abortion isn’t worth more than that life.

                  Apologies that’s, correct. But sure, being equal to a few cells is much better, not demeaning for women at all besides being rather silly.

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                    8 months ago

                    Wikipedia isn’t really a source. It seems you cannot back up your claim.

                    All human life is equally valuable. Whether they be young, old, black, white, male, female, etc. There’s not really much more I have to say on this specific topic. We can beat around the bush all day on terminology, etc. But a life is a life, and we shouldn’t have the authority to take it. I cannot speak to Atheism, but I have seen Atheists talk about valuing life as well and finding killing wrong without needing a religion. So I don’t see how when I say killing human life is wrong, whether it be a foetus or a fully grown trans person, you call me a “fundamentalist”, as if believing in the fundamentals of Christianity is a bad thing (although you don’t seem to mean it in that way)

                    I’m still intrigued with where you’re going with the Jesus being pro abortion issue. It was a pretty wild claim to make.