I did not commit any crimes and don’t have any sins, so there is nothing to forgive - and if so only people I wronged can forgive me. Also it’s not free since it’s coupled on a ton of conditions.
Sins is not a universal concept, it’s a christian thing to make people feel bad about themselfs. Often just basic human experiences like lust are somehow defined as bad and than moral apostles like you claim everyone is a sinner.
What “conditions” concern you?
Something is not free if you tie it in with conditions, I know you struggle with meanings of words an logic - but try to keep up.
Basically every religion has some idea of sin. It’s atheism which tries and removes that by claiming objective morality doesn’t exist, and that morality is merely just subjective and what people agree upon.
I asked you what conditions you were concerned about for salvation, and you didn’t mention one but tried to demean me again as if I don’t know what “conditions” mean.
It’s atheism which tries and removes that by claiming objective morality doesn’t exist, and that morality is merely just subjective and what people agree upon.
That has nothing to do with atheism. All atheism does is stating that there is no god.
and that morality is merely just subjective and what people agree upon.
You might not like it, but that’s how it is - animals are not concerned with morality, it’s something we human came up with. Does not mean it’s any less valuable than morality derived from magic creatures and imaginary friends.
I asked you what conditions you were concerned about for salvation, and you didn’t mention one but tried to demean me again as if I don’t know what “conditions” mean.
You are the one who claimed it was free. I just said it had conditions and was therefore not free. I’m not concerned about conditions to beginn with since there is nothing I need salvation from.
Buddhists still believe in a universal moral code.
Ethnologist Christoph von Fürer-Haimendorf explained,
In Buddhist thinking the whole universe, men as well as gods, are subject to a reign of law. Every action, good or bad, has an inevitable and automatic effect in a long chain of causes, an effect which is independent of the will of any deity. Even though this may leave no room for the concept of ‘sin’ in the sense of an act of defiance against the authority of a personal god, Buddhists speak of ‘sin’ when referring to transgressions against the universal moral code.
If there is no God, then there’s no moral code, and no objective morality.
Ahh makes sense, you think that humans are evil and depraved - which is kind of telling on yourself. So maybe for you specifically it’s cool that there is a book explaining that murder is bad. Most people just need a bit of empathy to get such a complex idea.
We are evil and depraved. Don’t you see what we have done to this earth? And our moral compass has been ingrained in us since Eden. You don’t need to be a Christian to have morals. We have them because it’s true.
Following Jesus is literally free. How is a free pardon for our crimes a gift?
I did not commit any crimes and don’t have any sins, so there is nothing to forgive - and if so only people I wronged can forgive me. Also it’s not free since it’s coupled on a ton of conditions.
I doubt that you don’t have any sins. Because we all do. What “conditions” concern you?
Sins is not a universal concept, it’s a christian thing to make people feel bad about themselfs. Often just basic human experiences like lust are somehow defined as bad and than moral apostles like you claim everyone is a sinner.
Something is not free if you tie it in with conditions, I know you struggle with meanings of words an logic - but try to keep up.
Basically every religion has some idea of sin. It’s atheism which tries and removes that by claiming objective morality doesn’t exist, and that morality is merely just subjective and what people agree upon.
I asked you what conditions you were concerned about for salvation, and you didn’t mention one but tried to demean me again as if I don’t know what “conditions” mean.
Tell me more about sin in Buddhism.
That has nothing to do with atheism. All atheism does is stating that there is no god.
You might not like it, but that’s how it is - animals are not concerned with morality, it’s something we human came up with. Does not mean it’s any less valuable than morality derived from magic creatures and imaginary friends.
You are the one who claimed it was free. I just said it had conditions and was therefore not free. I’m not concerned about conditions to beginn with since there is nothing I need salvation from.
Buddhists still believe in a universal moral code.
Ethnologist Christoph von Fürer-Haimendorf explained,
If there is no God, then there’s no moral code, and no objective morality.
As for your final comment,
Ahh makes sense, you think that humans are evil and depraved - which is kind of telling on yourself. So maybe for you specifically it’s cool that there is a book explaining that murder is bad. Most people just need a bit of empathy to get such a complex idea.
We are evil and depraved. Don’t you see what we have done to this earth? And our moral compass has been ingrained in us since Eden. You don’t need to be a Christian to have morals. We have them because it’s true.