The most famous forms of Holocaust denial and revisionism tend to focus on Jews, casting doubt, for example, on how many were exterminated in the camps. But denying the impact the Nazis had on the other groups they targeted, including queer and trans people, disabled people and Romani people, is still Holocaust denial. Maybe someone should tell J.K. Rowling.

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    No. We’re talking political categorisations, not the dictionary definition.

    Conservatives are socially conservative and economically liberal.

    Liberals are socially liberal and economically liberal.

    Liberals have never had a problem abandoning their high-minded ideals when there were savages to civilise. Because liberalism has no analysis of power, and an absolute belief in the fundamental impossibility that they could be wrong about anything.

    There’s no doubt that she is shifting to the right, because they are fawning over her and she has no politics. See also Linehan and Chappelle. They were all bog-standard liberals before being criticised.

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      Chappelle was only liberal where racism was concerned. Otherwise he has been squarely neo-liberal when pushed into any political discussion. I believe Rowling has also always been neo-liberal.

      Neo-liberals are conservatives. They toy with progressivism only when it benefits them. But, neo-liberals are otherwise conservatives with a bit more tact than typical conservatives.

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        You’re not wrong, except in believing that classical liberalism was ever any different.

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          I no longer confuse classical liberalism with progressivism. I was corrected on that topic a few years ago and learned my lesson.

          I hate that conservatives in the U.S. worked so hard to use these terms interchangably. They’ve gleefully created chaos with their misuse of words as pejoratives and it makes having adult conversations so much more complicated. Which I suppose was their goal all along.

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            I believe that’s why “centrist” has become a popular substitute word, to sidestep the confusion.

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              Don’t get me started on centrists. What a wonderfully convenient way for a conservative to hide their shame in social settings! Ten years ago, that word meant nothing to me. Now, it just means “embarrassed conservative” to me.

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                I assume you talk about centrist as in USA context? Because what you’re saying doesn’t make much sense to me as Northern European

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                  Ahh, yes. Here in the U.S., some conservatives have become ashamed to admit they are conservatives, especially after the Trump presidency. So now they call themselves centrists.

                  They are still very conservative. They just don’t want to be equated with the most extreme of their party. They think being somewhere between neo-nazi and neo-liberal is called “centrist”.