• rah
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    3 months ago

    ROFL. Adultery. Theft. Fraud. Murder. I don’t understand how you can be blind to human behaviour.

    More from another post:

    “Human beings must necessarily cooperate and aid each other in order to survive. It’s how our species evolved. However, that doesn’t mean humans only ever aid each other, or even that they care about others except as a means to survive. Humans will cooperate when it’s beneficial and also stab their fellow humans in the back, step on them and exploit them when it’s beneficial. That’s why all we have are systems of elites and peasants, filled with squalor and death. But the species continues because of those systems.”

    Edit: have a watch of this video:

    Power Games

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      I never once said humans cannot act outside of collaborative measures, but you on the other hand claimed this is a natural and present desire, regardless of system. This is false.

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        you on the other hand claimed this is a natural and present desire, regardless of system. This is false.

        It is not false, it’s evolutionary psychology. Have a look at this video:

        Power Games

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          It is false. You believe there is an intrinsic desire to sabatage, innate to humans, which is false. This behavior is only present in stressed conditions, what comes first is desire for cooperation.

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            You believe there is an intrinsic desire to sabatage, innate to humans

            I have not used the word “desire”.

            which is false

            It is not false. Again, it is evolutionary psychology.

            This behavior is only present in stressed conditions

            The need to increase one’s chances of survival and of passing on one’s genes is always present and is not limited to stressed conditions.

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              It is false. Evolutionary psychology pushes against sabotage, because it risks the group.

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                It is false.

                It is not false.

                Evolutionary psychology pushes against sabotage

                I haven’t used the word “sabotage” and I’m not sure what you’re referring to when you use it. I don’t understand why you’ve introduced the word.

                because it risks the group.

                Exploitation per se doesn’t necessarily threaten a group’s survival. Exploitation is harm to one and benefit to another. Evolution only cares about which benefits the species more.

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                  It is false. I used the word sabotage because it’s accurate, humans go for cooperation before all else.

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                    We’re not communicating. You’re deluded. Best of luck.