• stanleytweedle@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    As shitty and tragic as this is I have to smile at the thought that at some point these fucks will ‘patrol’ the wrong women and get righteously stomped.

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    3 months ago

    The solution is so simple to me. Please explain why we can’t just have gender neutral bathrooms with actually private stalls/changing rooms and just a shared handwashing area?

      • Jojo, Lady of the West@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Bathroom bills don’t even seem like they increase bathroom privacy. The only passable justification (which still relies on demonstrably false assumptions and in fact completely backfires in practice) is to “protect women” from “predators”.

        In reality, trans people are less likely to be predators than cis, and bathroom bills primarily serve to increase the number of cis people being accosted in bathrooms because they don’t look “normal” enough. So it’s still completely unjustifiably stupid. But it’s the only justification that even makes any sense at the outset even when you believe the fear mongering lies.

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        Eh. The vast majority of feminists I know regularly complain that they don’t feel safe being around men.

        They use rhetoric similar to racists by saying men are more likely to commit acts of violence than women, so it’s okay to discriminate against them.

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          When you say things like this is it a Strawoman or a Straw-woman or Strawperson? I feel like there isn’t a good way to spell it.

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      Because that costs more to install per toilet.

      Money is why you cannot have privacy, safety, or a better experience.

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      Some places are doing exactly that. Went to a restaurant last month that had 6 full doors, behind which were small rooms the size of a stall, and a toilet. When you came out of the little toilet room, there was a place to wash\dry your hands in what was essentially an extra wide hallway leading back to the seating area.

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        So don’t. It’s a different room, enclosed off from all others. Like a bathroom is intended to be and, indeed, is like, in just about every other civilized country in the world.

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    So I guess now we need our own vigilantes to keep those other vigilantes in check. Should have purged the remnants of the Confederacy back in 1865, no amnesty for traitors.

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      It’s Republicans, not Florida. Just take a look around the country.

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        It’s Christianity and always has been. You can’t have a minority be left in peace and distinct in a Christian country. Their book tells them that there is only one way to live, only one way to salvation, only one truth. When you have such a radical monotheistic view of humanity the unavoidable result will be to murder the Other. Any follower of Christ who claims to be tolerant is at best inconsistent at worse bidding their time.

    • ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      This isn’t about Florida. This is about the Republicans becoming the Nazis, and needing minorities to demonize.

      This garbage is happening in other red states too; Florida is just ahead of the curve.

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        Fuck Florida. Fuck Tennessee. Fuck every red state harming people. Fuck the GOP. Fuck Israel. Fuck 'em. I’m not blind to this being a rightwing problem.

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        We should really normalize unisex bathrooms.

        I don’t care what you’ve got in your pants, I just want to fucking pee. Or I very, very badly need to poop. Do whatever you need to with changing diapers or taking your toddler to the bathroom, I don’t care.

        The fact that we have different bathrooms points to a societal problem. Men need to keep their hands to themselves, and all we do by having separate bathrooms is perpetuate the idea that men will assault women in bathrooms.

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    Something like 80 years ago there were no gender specific bathrooms. It was just, The Bathroom

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      I just made a comment how the protest solution is simple. Sledgehammer the urinals and then all bathrooms are genderless…

      Do that more than once and I almost guarantee the establishment says “fuck it, we’re not replacing those again”

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    This makes me so sad.

    Thank goodness I’ll be out of this horrorshow state soon.

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    Excuse me sir, we are required to check for penises and vaginas at the door. Thanks for understandi…dang dog! Is that thing 12 inches?

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    Fuck it. New protest…

    Take a sledge hammer to every urinal… all bathrooms are gender neutral now.

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    Any wonder LGBT folks are one of the largest gun buying demographics in the past few years? Ain’t that something?

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      I fuck hate guns but I am starting to understand it now. I am not a member of the LGBT but if I were I might consider going around armed.

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        One thing to keep in mind is armed allies keep the persecuted safe and ensure that the vigilantes stop before the moral panic moves to something they are

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    Just put enough stalls there aswell as urinals and make it gender neutral. Most men don’t care about women in their bathrooms anyway. It’s - as demonstrated by this article - women that care. Wether it be gender neutral bathrooms or trans athletes it’s almost exclusively biological women that are the only ones with something to lose.

    Where I go swimming there’s almost always female staff doing cleaning in the men’s locker and shower rooms and nobody gives a damn. Good luck putting a male cleaner in the female shower space though.

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      Uh, trans women face out-sized violence and rape from men as well. So it is a safety concern for them as much as it is for cis women.

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        “Uh…”

        When anyone is the victim of physical violence 95 times out of 100 the perpetrator is male and the vast majority of victims are also male. This is not a competition nor the point of what I said.

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          The point of what you said was to imply trans women represent a threat to cis women, when that is false and trans women also have just as much to lose in terms of their safety. And now when called out you try to pivot.

          This is extremely dishonest.

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              Wether it be gender neutral bathrooms or trans athletes it’s almost exclusively biological women that are the only ones with something to lose.

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                And that is false how? What do trans people have to lose here?

                I’m not talking about a physical threat. If a trans woman joins a women’s athletic competition the biological women are the ones who lose. With gender neutral bathrooms again it’s biological women that are on the losing side. Trans people have nothing to lose and everything to gain. I as a guy have zero issue with a woman showing up in the men’s bathroom. She can even hold my dick while I piss if she likes. It’s biological women that throw all equality and inclusion out the window the first moment a woman with a deep voice and a cock shows up in the shower room.

                And again; I’m all for gender neutrality. It doesn’t affect me one bit so I don’t care.

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                  What do trans people have to lose here?

                  The same that cis women do.

                  Trying to pivot to sports won’t save your argument either. Trans women athletes, rare as they are, do not perform outside the range of cis women, nor are the even guarunteed to perform on the high end of that range. For example, a 4ft trans women whos been transitioned since her teens or earlier, is not going to defeat a high performing cis volleyball player.

                  What you’re doing with your blanket hate and stereotypes disguised as concern is simply punishing trans women for an outcomes that is not guarunteed or even likely.