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  • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.ml
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    7 months ago

    I have to disagree. Marxism does not seem to be rooted in either materialism or idealism, or, at least, I do not see any contradictions with either.

    Marxism is dialectical materialism, that is what it means. When someone says “Marxist analysis”, it means it’s an analysis through the lens of dialectical materialism. It’s method is dialectical, viewing things as a process, while it’s theory is materialistic, matter being primary. Marxism is hitherto the most advanced development on materialist theory.

    Obligatory “Dialectical and Historical Materialism by Stalin” recommendation, this book explains why Marxism is opposite to idealism and metaphysics: https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

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      7 months ago

      Marxism is dialectical materialism, that is what it means. When someone says “Marxist analysis”, it means it’s an analysis through the lens of dialectical materialism. It’s method is dialectical, viewing things as a process, while it’s theory is materialistic, matter being primary. Marxism is hitherto the most advanced development on materialist theory

      But what actual contradictions are there between Marxism and idealism?
      Again, for example, I am a mathematical Platonist. What beliefs of mine in that regard contradict with Marxism? If it’s just the subscription to ontological materialism, but without any notable conclusions drawn from that, then, given that that would mean that I agree with every Marxist position except that one, that would mean that the differences between my positions and Marxist ones are insignificant.

      Obligatory “Dialectical and Historical Materialism by Stalin” recommendation, this book explains why Marxism is opposite to idealism and metaphysics: https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

      I will read it, albeit that will have to wait until at least tomorrow.

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        7 months ago

        Again, for example, I am a mathematical Platonist. What beliefs of mine in that regard contradict with Marxism?

        Well for one you see math as something independent, you see math existing in a vacuum.

        "Contrary to metaphysics, dialectics does not regard nature as an accidental agglomeration of things, of phenomena, unconnected with, isolated from, and independent of, each other, but as a connected and integral whole, in which things, phenomena are organically connected with, dependent on, and determined by, each other.

        The dialectical method therefore holds that no phenomenon in nature can be understood if taken by itself, isolated from surrounding phenomena, inasmuch as any phenomenon in any realm of nature may become meaningless to us if it is not considered in connection with the surrounding conditions, but divorced from them; and that, vice versa, any phenomenon can be understood and explained if considered in its inseparable connection with surrounding phenomena, as one conditioned by surrounding phenomena." (Dialectical and Historical Materialism)

        This is my understanding of your views from what you wrote in other replies, i haven’t read and don’t plan to read about mathematical Platonism, we already have developed much further than whatever Plato worked with.