I know we haven’t been formerly introduced but user TimDave seems like a much cooler, and real, person compared to your Jesus myth. As far as I know TimDave has never ordered that his enemies be murdered and cast at his feet.
He sets up an analogy of himself as king and then has the king say that. It’s a weasel way of saying stuff. On the level of me taking a hand puppet out and making it say mean things. “Don’t get upset it was Mr. Scruffy that said it not me”.
I love how you were like “look! I’m not taking it out of context!” And proceed to take it out of context. You may have supposedly placed the characters, but you haven’t placed the timing. It’s clearly referring to the future events (the final judgement) when Christ’s enemies will be thrown to the place prepared for Satan and his angels. The story is about future events. No matter how you want to frame it, there is no way that’s a command to kill people in the present. Even a plain reading shows you this.
Luke 19:11 even shows that it is referring to the Kingdom of God, something which hasn’t come yet.
Bud, you’re not doing any good here. Your approach assumes the other person believes that Jesus is real. That’s like arguing for human rights with a Republican – it’s fundamentally against their ideals.
Do you really think He has turned a blind eye to that? Because He has not.
Matthew 7:21-23
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
Luke 17:2
It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble.
yeah, I mean, if you have to reach back to an ancient book (that was written by man, and rewritten by man to suit the times and ideals numerous times there after) to find a case for"proof", then the proof is pretty much meanginless… unless the proof is to prove how condoned it is and how long they’ve been allowed to get away with it.
Hmm before or after he unleashes mass murder and torture on earth? This is an important thing for me. I try to tell people I like them before they slaughter humans, not after.
Of course the best part never get mentioned:
Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
Jesus turns a woman into a sex slave forced to make rape babies and watch said babies get murdered.
Another day, another Atheist taking the Bible out of context.
Revelation 2:18-29 ESV
“And to the angel of the church in Thyatira write: ‘The words of the Son of God, who has eyes like a flame of fire, and whose feet are like burnished bronze. “‘I know your works, your love and faith and service and patient endurance, and that your latter works exceed the first. But I have this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and seducing my servants to practice sexual immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols. I gave her time to repent, but she refuses to repent of her sexual immorality. Behold, I will throw her onto a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her I will throw into great tribulation, unless they repent of her works, and I will strike her children dead. And all the churches will know that I am he who searches mind and heart, and I will give to each of you according to your works. But to the rest of you in Thyatira, who do not hold this teaching, who have not learned what some call the deep things of Satan, to you I say, I do not lay on you any other burden. Only hold fast what you have until I come. The one who conquers and who keeps my works until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received authority from my Father. And I will give him the morning star. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’
If you actually read it in context and have an ounce of intelligence and honesty, it’s referring to someone who’s seducing men within the Church of Thyatira. But of course, if you read it in context, you won’t be able to make the weird conclusion you were trying to make. This is low, even for an Atheist argument.
There is no context that makes sex slavery and infanticide acceptable. It doesn’t matter what her supposed sins are. This is a new low even for Christian “thought”.
It sounds like you’re upset when God punishes sin. So you’re upset both when God does something and when God doesn’t do something? How can this be? Do you want God to just let us be evil without punishment?
How come it’s wrong when The Creator of the universe takes a life He ordained, but it’s perfectly acceptable when a woman has an abortion? Her body her choice? What about His universe His choice? I see a double standard appearing.
The part where she is confined to her bed with her lovers and watching her babies get murdered
Yes I am upset that anyone would believe sexual slavery and infanticide is an appropriate punishment. It makes me wonder about the people who think this is acceptable. Torture is bad, rape is bad, murder is bad.
Now you are just throwing stuff at the wall.
Anyway enjoy your block I can’t get into yet another argument with a xian who thinks rape is fine.
Will you tell Him that to His face on judgement day?
I’d kick him right in the Jimmy for making that worm that burrows into children’s eyes in Africa, destroying their vision
Why not kick him for making you?
I know we haven’t been formerly introduced but user TimDave seems like a much cooler, and real, person compared to your Jesus myth. As far as I know TimDave has never ordered that his enemies be murdered and cast at his feet.
So why would he be upset about existing?
When did Jesus order that his enemies be murdered and cast at his feet?
Luke 19:27
He sets up an analogy of himself as king and then has the king say that. It’s a weasel way of saying stuff. On the level of me taking a hand puppet out and making it say mean things. “Don’t get upset it was Mr. Scruffy that said it not me”.
I love how you were like “look! I’m not taking it out of context!” And proceed to take it out of context. You may have supposedly placed the characters, but you haven’t placed the timing. It’s clearly referring to the future events (the final judgement) when Christ’s enemies will be thrown to the place prepared for Satan and his angels. The story is about future events. No matter how you want to frame it, there is no way that’s a command to kill people in the present. Even a plain reading shows you this.
Luke 19:11 even shows that it is referring to the Kingdom of God, something which hasn’t come yet.
Bud, you’re not doing any good here. Your approach assumes the other person believes that Jesus is real. That’s like arguing for human rights with a Republican – it’s fundamentally against their ideals.
At least they’d never be able to say that they weren’t told about this.
Christianity is obsessed with sending people to hell.
We aren’t the ones who condemn you to hell. You condemn yourself.
Sure.
before or after cockslapping the fuck out of him for turning a blind eye to all his followers diddling kids?
Do you really think He has turned a blind eye to that? Because He has not.
Matthew 7:21-23 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
Luke 17:2 It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble.
so what you’re saying is he has turned a blind eye seeing as I’ve yet to see a bishop with a millstone, yeah?
yeah, I mean, if you have to reach back to an ancient book (that was written by man, and rewritten by man to suit the times and ideals numerous times there after) to find a case for"proof", then the proof is pretty much meanginless… unless the proof is to prove how condoned it is and how long they’ve been allowed to get away with it.
Bible hasn’t really been rewritten much. The ESV we have now is pretty accurate.
Its cute that you think that.
We’ve got pretty early manuscripts spread out from across the world. Some dude would have had to travel the world and edit each individual manuscript
Are you posting from hell right now? 🤣
Your choice!
Is it?
Yes?
There is a pretty old debate that if God is all knowing then free will can’t be a thing. I was making an admittedly subtle reference to that.
Isn’t that Calvinism?
Calvinists were loony enough to consider that a feature. But it’s a rough philosophical spot for pretty much all flavors of Christianity.
The only judgement day anyone on earth needs to be concerned with is a Will Smith movie. All others are a load of horseshit.
How dare you ignore our Lord and Savior Terminator 2!
Damn, you’re right! My mistake, make it two Judgement Days
That’s what Satan wants you to think
Who’s that?
A mutated version of the story of Prometheus, or possibly a cousin with a long ago forgotten parent myth.
Who?
God
So Zeus?
Cute.
Hmm before or after he unleashes mass murder and torture on earth? This is an important thing for me. I try to tell people I like them before they slaughter humans, not after.
Of course the best part never get mentioned:
Jesus turns a woman into a sex slave forced to make rape babies and watch said babies get murdered.
Christianity everyone!
Another day, another Atheist taking the Bible out of context.
Revelation 2:18-29 ESV
If you actually read it in context and have an ounce of intelligence and honesty, it’s referring to someone who’s seducing men within the Church of Thyatira. But of course, if you read it in context, you won’t be able to make the weird conclusion you were trying to make. This is low, even for an Atheist argument.
Atheist lies to make a stupid point
Atheism, everyone!
There is no context that makes sex slavery and infanticide acceptable. It doesn’t matter what her supposed sins are. This is a new low even for Christian “thought”.
Where does it mention sexual slavery?
It sounds like you’re upset when God punishes sin. So you’re upset both when God does something and when God doesn’t do something? How can this be? Do you want God to just let us be evil without punishment?
How come it’s wrong when The Creator of the universe takes a life He ordained, but it’s perfectly acceptable when a woman has an abortion? Her body her choice? What about His universe His choice? I see a double standard appearing.
The part where she is confined to her bed with her lovers and watching her babies get murdered
Yes I am upset that anyone would believe sexual slavery and infanticide is an appropriate punishment. It makes me wonder about the people who think this is acceptable. Torture is bad, rape is bad, murder is bad.
Now you are just throwing stuff at the wall.
Anyway enjoy your block I can’t get into yet another argument with a xian who thinks rape is fine.
Why wait?
Irrelevant since this isn’t a thing.
Still don’t get the unhealthy obsession with that fantasy book.
What counts as an unhealthy obsession? And what fantasy book?