Texas leads the charge

  • FfaerieOxide@kbin.social
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    7 months ago

    Do you know what sometimes means?

    If I said, “The sun sometimes rises in the east.” that is a true statement, but not evidence that it ever does otherwise and if I wanted to claim “…and sometimes it rises in the west.” I would still need to provide evidence other than stressing the “sometimes” in my first statement.

    How can calling a person (and not actions) “illegal” be anything but derogatory?
    Explain your west-rising sun, please.

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      7 months ago

      What direction the sun rise is not binary, unlike if a statement is derogatory, the sun can rise in the east, north east, South east, North or south.

      If the claim that the sun sometimes rises in east is true than the claim that the sun always rises in the east is false and so is that the claim the sun never rises in the east.

      If the claim that illegal is sometimes derogatory is true then the the claim illegal is always derogatory or never derogatory is false.

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        7 months ago

        If the claim that illegal is sometimes derogatory is true then the the claim illegal is always derogatory or never derogatory is false.

        No it isn’t. Nothing about “sometimes” being true itself proves the corollary “always” is false.

        Besides, you would think you could end this by giving the example to refuse to proffer of a non-derogatory use.

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          7 months ago

          No it isn’t. Nothing about “sometimes” being true itself proves the corollary “always” is false.

          You’re going to have to provide examples where sometimes means always.

          https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/sometimes

          on some occasions but not always or often:

          on some occasions but not always or often illegal can be derogatory.

          Besides, you would think you could end this by giving the example to refuse to proffer of a non-derogatory use.

          There is no way you’ll be honest about the statement. You’ve all ready stated it’s a slur no matter how it’s used.

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            7 months ago

            You’re going to have to provide examples where sometimes means always.

            I’m not the one making the claim here, you are.

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              7 months ago

              I’m not the one making the claim here, you are.

              You keep claiming illegal is always derogatory even though the definition states otherwise.

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                7 months ago

                The definition does not indicate it can be not derogatory—which makes sense because it’s derogatory.

                You despite claiming sans evidence that it is possible to refer to a human being with a pejorative adjective and it be anything other than derogatory, won’t even back up your claim with a single non-derogatory example of its use.

                I get why you won’t—'cause you can’t—but if you were right you’d think You could give an example rather than litigating the implied corollaries to “sometimes”.

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                  7 months ago

                  The definition does not indicate it can be not derogatory—which makes sense because it’s derogatory.

                  It does that what sometimes means. They would use the word always or possiblly omit it and state illegal is derogatory. They instead use sometimes.

                  If you can’t be honest about the definition of the word sometimes then why would you be honest about if the statement is derogatory.

                  Tell you what, if you can show when sometimes indicates something always happens I’ll give an example.

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                    7 months ago

                    “Sometimes” is different than “Sometimes although not always

                    That I why I had to use different words to type the two different concepts.
                    Your definition only listed the first, which does not inherently indicate the second.