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Sorry, Mark, so long as Meta is attached to the headset I’m not going to buy it.
I don’t even let Meta websites into my house. I have all that blocked at the DNS level.
Exactly, I’d buy a headset from Temu before Id buy something from Meta
I wish I could do that at our house. My wife would lose her shit though along with we need it for events sadly. The one thing FB is good for is groups and events.
I decided to wait for Valve standalone. Even if it never comes out I’d rather keep waiting than get a meta headset.
The Valve Index is here already and great. No bullshit like the Quest, just VR that works well. If you have a gaming PC with at least a quad-core and RTX 3060 then you should be good to get started with one. Mine works fine on a 9-year old gaming PC with 6 cores, 16GB RAM, and an RTX 3060TI. The motherboard is that old, the rest of the parts are newer (mostly GPU)
They’re thinking of something that can work unteathered to a PC, like the rumoured valve deckard system
Right but you can’t buy one of those, they aren’t on the market. What Valve has currently is excellent already but you can’t walk around town wearing it (as if anyone would need to)
I get you but that’s not what the commenter above is looking for.
I know the Index is fantastic and I’m truly happy for you, but I can appreciate other people being in the market for high fidelity VR with a substantially lower asking price (along with a lower total cost of ownership as a standalone system).
We can’t let meta pull ahead in this industry unchecked, and I really hope Valve (or literally anybody else) can step up to this segment in the near future.
I think by standalone they mean ‘no PC’. Like the Quest ones that run the games on themselves.
The index isn’t standalone 🤦♂️
Yeah no shit. Standalone isn’t as good as wired because you can’t fit a bigass Nvidia card inside a VR headset.
I own a lot of VR games and the only one that doesn’t have a port that works natively on the Quest is Half-Life Alyx. Standalones can also be plugged in or stream PCVR wirelessly, and all of the standalone HMDs I am aware of, have better hardware than the aging Index (and thus look better even when not doing PCVR). Even the trackers are better and smaller and don’t require a home base station.
No, the Index still has a higher resolution than the Quest2 and earlier standalone VR headsets, and the Index still has a class-leading 130-degree field of view and 144Hz refresh rate. It has excellent sound and the best VR controllers on the market. It’s still an overall great VR setup for those of us that have good gaming PCs.
I’ve been playing Dark Souls, Elden Ring, and Cyberpunk 2077 in VR on my Index recently using mods. It’s fuckin’ awesome.
The Index still has a higher resolution than the Quest 2 and earlier standalone VR headsets
Uh… The Index has a resolution of 1440x1600 per eye with 15PPD. The Quest 2 is 1832x1920 per eye with 20PPD. The Quest 1 had the exact same resolution as the Index. The Quest 3 is 2064x2208 per eye and Pico 4 is 2160x4320 per eye. The Index doesn’t lead the FOV game anymore, either; but the beasts with 200+ FOV are also super expensive and better in every other way too like the Pimax Vision.
I like Valve, too, but they’re not the best at everything.
They would have to strive to be less shit than Microsoft.
Right now meta have a proprietary display technology. They need in some way to transition that to a standard, and they’ve done absolutely nothing in that area to move towards that goal. They have absolutely no idea how to move VR into the mainstream. Everything they do is all about making more money in the short term but they have no long-term strategy.
Where is the equivalent of HTML? Where is their standard for producing VR and AR content? They need to display the content, they don’t need to own it.
They want to create “The Metaverse” and yet they don’t get that in order to do that it needs to be open source and public access. Now they are trying to create a closed source VR internet, and it won’t work.
For someone as apparently intelligent as Mark, it’s amazing how stupid he is.
It doesn’t matter what you do or say, Mark, I will never buy something produced by or associated with Meta. Don’t care how groundbreaking or revolutionary it might be.
I see you, Mark. I’ve watched how you operate for the last 20 years, Mark. I’ll never give you a cent.
I hate facebook but i love vr. And it was the only one i could afford. I have it completely blocked off the internet though since i only use it for steamvr. 🥺
I feel you, and part of the reason we don’t have access to cheaper and better options is because of Meta’s monopolistic instinct. They bought oculus, which had been actively innovating, instead of competing with them and strengthening the market by developing their own product. It’s not like they didn’t have the money.
I don’t fault anyone for buying their stuff if it’s cool, my stand is purely a stubborn one at this point. I just won’t touch Meta with a ten foot pole.
a lot of people dont have the same hate for mark that you have, and a lot of people dont even know that meta is facebook. He’s not a good person, but he’s not stupid
You can be extremely intelligent and still fucking dumb as rocks. Intelligence in one area doesn’t necessarily equate to intelligence in other areas.
He’s not a good person, but he’s not stupid
Citation needed on that one.
He’s done a mind-numbly large amount of brainless things. That money is in selling VR headsets and yet they haven’t done anything to make VR content interesting to the general populace.
Every time I read about Meta I pray a little more that those rumors about Valve working on a standalone VR headset are true
This must be pandering to shareholders, no company in their right mind would want to compete when Meta is selling their first party headset at a giant loss.
Why the fuck would anyone want to be the Microsoft of anything?
💲 💲 💲
ill be very dissapointed if they succeed.
i hope they keep failing at it.
So they wanna discontinue dealing in VR, just like Microsoft did? 🤔
That’s cool, I didn’t buy Microsoft products either.
It’s not the hardware side of the Quest I take issue with, zucc
Will always be a niche product. The general population has no interest in strapping a display to their face. This shit is just 3D tv round 2
It could be a lot more but we don’t have anyone in a position of authority within these companies with any kind of long-term vision.
All they have to do is look at sci-fi and basically make that but they’re too obsessed about their walled gardens
It’s that fucking readyplayerone movie. They all saw that and thought “what if everyone was obsessed with a virtual world, and there was only one virtual world that was basically a monopoly, and what if we controlled it all” without realizing how dumb that is and that competing, and likely better software will definitely end up being created organically by people who care about the end result more than they do about money.
Exactly it needs to be an open standard or there’s no point. Someone pointed out the other day that Epic has a much better chance of creating a metaverse by leveraging fortnite user created content. Still isn’t ideal, but it’s better than anything Facebook is offering, and at least has something that a future standard to build on.
Honestly “Microsoft” would have been a perfect brand name for a line of VR gear, if they hadn’t jumped the gun and applied it to software back in the day.
