A top Hamas political official told The Associated Press the Islamic militant group is willing to agree to a truce of five years or more with Israel and that it would lay down its weapons and convert into a political party if an independent Palestinian state is established along pre-1967 borders.

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    Living under an Apartheid State with no human or civil rights, subjected to violence Occupying Force on a daily basis, is not ‘having a border with them’

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    To clarify, my point is that free and fair elections are impossible under an Apartheid Regime.

    Hamas certainly tortures and kills political rivals, and has been exposed for corruption. In addition, Fatah is also corrupt, seen as working at the behest of Israel at the expense of Palestinians in East Jerusalem and the West Bank. Both have been funded by Israel as part of a Divide and Conquer tactic. Israel also has a long history of assassinating more moderate and leftist political Palestinian rivals.

    Hamas Victory Driven By Desire To End Corruption WPO

    Hamas Political Violence in Gaza - HRW 2009

    Gaza: Palestinians tortured, summarily killed by Hamas forces during 2014 conflict - Amnesty

    Gaza: Journalist facing prison term for exposing corruption in Hamas-controlled ministry - Amnesty

    Palestinians furious and fed up with corruption of Abbas’s ‘mafia’ PA - MEE

    “Divide and Rule”: How Israel Helped Start Hamas to Weaken Palestinian Hopes for Statehood - DemocracyNow

    Rise and Kill First: The Secret History of Israel’s Targeted Assassinations – review - The Guardian

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        Israel has had control of Gaza with the occupation and blockade since 1967, enforcing policies for the de-development of Gaza’s economy. The Israeli imposed closure on Gaza began in 1991, temporarily, becoming permanent in 1993. The barrier began around Gaza around 1972.

        With the Blockade, Israel controls all the sea, airspace, and border. Fishermen can’t fish outside of 6-12 nautical miles before getting arrested or shot. Israel controls all travel in and out of Gaza. Over 60% of people were already food insecure before October 7th because Israel deliberately restricts food entering Gaza. Israel’s policies of Water control left everyone in Gaza with half the water of the emergency WHO standards, now significantly less. Internationally, Gaza is recognized as Occupied.

        Israel has shut off all food, water, electricity, and aid to Gaza. Because as occupiers they have that power over occupied territories. They’ve also repeatedly targeted refugee camps, hospitals, safe zones, and aid trucks.

        “I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed,” “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly"

        • Minister of Defense - Yoav Gallant

        The Gaza Strip: The Political Economy of De-Development - Third Edition by Sara M. Roy

        Israel claims it is no longer occupying the Gaza Strip. What does international law say?

        The Gaza Strip − why the history of the densely populated enclave is key to understanding the current conflict

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          So Israel has the obligation indefinitely support Gaza? Also the image you showed is a complete propaganda and a huge amount of facts is missed.

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            Israel deliberately decided to occupy Gaza, the West Bank, and East Jerusalem in 1967. After being directly responsible for the expulsion of 800,000 Palestinians in 1948, many of which fled to those territories after having their homes and belongings destroyed during Plan Dalet. Since 1967, Israel has had control over Gaza as the Occupier, changing into a more brutal form of Occupation with the 2007 Blockade. Israel has been the one responsible for the de-development of Gaza. How can you possibly think Israel is ‘supporting’ Gaza?

            That image is factual, especially when you consider the context of the wars Israel wages on Gaza.

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              You are posting images from aljazeera and calling them factual. You also keep talking about Nakba (which I condemn) but fail to present that roughly 900k jews were forced out of Arab countries.

              Your anti-Israel bias is truly unprecedented.

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                The first image wasn’t from Al Jazeera, and both provide factual information. If you want to dispute a piece of information in the images, say what in particular and back it up.

                The Jewish exodus from Muslim Countries was indeed terrible. However, using it to legitimatize the Nakba or Apartheid is also terrible. Many prominent Israeli Historians criticize the “Jewish Nakba” narrative, as it’s called has been called, as being worse than the Nakba. There were certainly pogroms, property confiscation, and deportations against Jews in Islamic countries (considered push factors) which led to Jewish refugees to leave against their will. Notably in Iraq, Egypt, and Syria. However many decided to emigrate on their own accord, able to sell their property and move voluntarily. I’m also not aware of any Jewish refugees that are denied the right of return or citizenship.

                Yeah, I’m biased against genocide and Apartheid States, you got me there.

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                  So when it’s palestinians, they were forced out but when it’s jews, they left voluntarily and can freely return to Iran, Libya, Syria and totally won’t be killed…

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                    That’s not what I said. I specifically said that there were certainly Jewish refugees; especially from Egypt, Iraq, and Syria. Besides Syria, yes as far as I can tell they can freely return. That doesn’t mean they would want to or that they should. UNHCR allows for repatriation for refugees, however as far as I’m aware the vast majority of Jewish refugees chose to live elsewhere due to persecution.

                    However, saying all 850,000 Jewish people from the exodus were refugees is simply not true. Many voluntarily left due to pull factors such as the desire to fulfill Zionism or finding a better economic status and a secure home in either Israel, Europe, or the Americas. Many were able to sell their homes and move to where they wanted to.

                    Historian Tom Segev stated: “Deciding to emigrate to Israel was often a very personal decision. It was based on the particular circumstances of the individual’s life. They were not all poor, or ‘dwellers in dark caves and smoking pits’. Nor were they always subject to persecution, repression or discrimination in their native lands. They emigrated for a variety of reasons, depending on the country, the time, the community, and the person.”

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        Israel controls the maritime space in front of and air space over Gaza, the anagraphical and fiscal systems and the access of goods and people.