Confidence here probably isn’t a great thing
As long as it isn’t tied to complacency, it’s fine.
Yup. I was pretty darn confident on November 7th 2016 too.
Probably because nationally the Democrats have been beating polls by 9+ points since Roe V. Wade was overturned.
Nationally doesn’t mean shit if they can’t get 270 electoral votes.
If we can just get through this election then we can start worrying about the next election.
If Biden wins, we’ll never have to worry about either trump or Biden running again.
And if Trump wins, we’ll never have to worry about anyone ever running again.
But that’ll be the least of our problemsAre you sure we won’t have to worry about Trump running again? Because I am absolutely not.
If we’re lucky, heart disease will take care of the issue by then.
Also drywall can only sustain so much ketchup
🤞
I think the implication is he’ll be in prison. Setting aside whether that’s a safe bet or not, I can totally see an 80-something trump making campaign ads from a prison cell. He won’t really have anything better to do at that point.
Edit: typo
Even if he isn’t in prison or dead by then his cognitive decline will be too much for even the most addled magas to ignore.
Trump running for POTUS 2028…
@mipadaitu
Trump will never stop running again. Whether he wins or notThere’s only one way to ensure he doesn’t ruin our lives and our country. Only one way to secure our democracy and safety, and I’ll leave that to your imagination. I will say no more.
The rapture comes and Trump is included since he’s God gift to democracy?
Uhh…yeah, sure
The problems and divisions that those two men represent aren’t going to go away when they do.
ThEY’Re BoTh tHe SaMe
I didn’t say that. I didn’t say they’re the same, I don’t think they’re the same. Go put words in someone else’s mouth.
As per moderator request, a unique comment for you. Enjoy.
Typically, when someone asserts “both sides are the same,” it’s often from a Democratic-leaning conservative perspective, seeking to discredit critics of the Democratic Party. While acknowledging similarities between these 2 capitalist parties, there are significant distinctions. Encouraging a broader range of viewpoints would be more beneficial. Instead of just criticizing, inviting dissenting voices to participate actively and propose solutions would be more productive. Shifting away from first-past-the-post voting enables more accurate representation and minimizes the spoiler effect, a reform already implemented at the state level in Maine and Alaska. However, Republicans are opposing alternative electoral systems. Rather than continuing to use voting methods favored by Republicans, embracing multiple political parties ensures wider representation and engagement, benefiting citizens and the Democratic Party alike. Enhanced voter participation leads to more democratic outcomes. So, what prevents Democratic-led states from prioritizing electoral reform? Let’s take action and advocate for change within our states to ensure better representation and competition among candidates, striving for genuine representation without excuses.
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Weird. I didn’t hear any specific allegation.
And you won’t get one either.
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Thanks for reminding me to update my will. This might be useful.
Using something like that to further strawman a point does not make the point valid.
I’m saying you entirely missed the point that their comment was sarcastic. That’s what the sarcasm font means.
Maybe take a break for a bit. Drink some tea.
Repeated civility issues, removed, temp banned. Go touch grass.
Yeah, 2028 will see a new fascist running against an even more rightward corporate neoliberal.
Does anybody know which election wasn’t “the most important election in history”?
Obama 2012. Sure Romney would’ve sucked ass but he probably would’ve just fumbled the whole thing comically instead of actively undoing democracy.
Nah, that one also was the most important one:
Most every campaign cycle, it seems, presidential candidates and political pundits claim this election is the most important one ever. It’s become something of a cliché in American politics. This time, however, they just might be correct. Rarely before in modern times has the divide between the two parties been as stark.
https://www.politico.com/story/2012/03/the-most-important-presidential-election-ever-074188
Good thing Hillary beat Trump in 2016 or Democracy would have already ended.
You nearly got a coup, so I guess thanks Hillary for saving the democracy and the US people from the communist Bernie. /s
I mean, this is the first where a genuine threat of fascism was on the table. I don’t see things getting pulled back any time soon. I think the orange criminal made too many bad behaviors ok and there’s no going back. We’re gonna crumble, the only question is how soon.
Don’t get me wrong, I agree with you that things are in a dire state, and this might genuinely be the most important election in history. But I don’t see it ever getting better - as it stands right now, the Republican party will only continue getting crazier and more extreme, until there are no more elections. The system is fundamentally broken, and there needs to be some fundamental fix to off this wild ride.
Ranked Choice Voting with more political parties could be one such fix. It would allow for better representation on both sides (actual leftists on the left, and people on the right who aren’t quite as despicable as is currently the case).
But I don’t see it ever getting better - as it stands right now, the Republican party will only continue getting crazier and more extreme, until there are no more elections.
Them continually getting stomped in elections until they don’t hold any meaningful power anymore would make them eventually have to moderate. I don’t know that that’s what will happen, as we seem to be stuck in the American cycle of dismay with the ruling party turning into support for the out-of-power party no matter how terrible the out-of-power party is.
But what I think it would look like is like what happened to Democrats trying to grab the Presidency during the Reagan era. They got stomped enough times in a row nationally that they basically had to change their party platform to appeal to Reagan voters.
But what’s the likelihood of that happening? The Republican voter base lives in an alternative world, with alternative news and alternative media - and they are working hard on perpetuating that through indoctrination, both in the education system and through religion.
There have been so many points over the last couple of years where no rational person could keep supporting them, yet their base has grown or stayed the same. Their last president literally attempted a coup, yet there’s a good chance he’ll be re-elected. And even if he’s not, and he dies in the next couple of years - his fascist movement will not end with him.
But what’s the likelihood of that happening?
I’m not sure. I wouldn’t bet on it either and don’t think it’s very likely to happen. They may have found a bridge too far for even their voters with the abortion ban stuff though. Theirs is an exceedingly unpopular opinion, and the more action they take to make abortion completely illegal without even exemptions for shit like rape and incest, the more I think they’ll find themselves unelectable.
And even if he’s not, and he dies in the next couple of years - his fascist movement will not end with him.
I agree with the rest of what you’re saying, however, on this point I have a difference of opinion.
I don’t think fascism is an easily organized type of government. In my view, it’s essentially a cult of personality in politics and a single autocrat is essential to its continued function. It’s a type of retro-fitted monarchy where you have “dear leader” installed at the top and he cannot be removed except through death or exile.
One of the major problems with monarchies, autocracies, and even the mob (and sometimes business) is succession plans. These forms of organization can be stable for a while, but they tend to fall apart entirely or fizzle out at least somewhat once the central figure goes into the ground.
The Republican Party largely would’ve preferred to move on from Donald Trump probably as soon as he lost in 2020, but the populist dynamics are not allowing it to happen. “His base” is still his. Your Rons Desantis and your Nikkis Haley are no match for his cult of personality.
If he were to die, the people who voted for him that outlived him would still be alive, but I think they’d have a large amount of difficulty finding another leader to follow in exactly the same way. They’d likely split in their support for other leaders and their “movement” would be greatly damaged as a result.
The next election being local and State, not just President. I want us to carry the momentum and really start upping the pressure and pushing the candidates we need. Together.
That’s what they said last time.
Time to vote local in 2025!
Well, he’s won more elections than I have, but IDK
I’m feeling better than I was at the start of the year, but it’s certainly still no sure thing. A little confidence is a good thing, as long as it doesn’t rot into complacency.
I have a feeling that since he’s now on the campaign trail, he’s rubbing elbows with more voters, doing the kissing babies and shaking hands kind of stuff. Getting out there more is helping him feel more in touch with more of the American people, instead of being more isolated and busy with presidential work.
All this while Trump is stuck in criminal court for the forseeable future.
This was part of the Biden team’s strategy. They literally planned around Trump being stuck in federal court for April and May. That’s part of the reason why Biden is campaigning now.
It’s a stark contrast between an indicted criminal and a sitting president.
Trump caused these court delays all on his own.
If you are saying that Biden’s team expected & planned for that, you’re likely right.
Hey, don’t cut yourself short.
Biden’s first presidential primary was 1988, it took 32 years before he was able to win one.
Just never give up and have faith society will keep getting shittier till your flaws are no longer deal breakers
The one he had to back out of because of plagiarism and lies.
They downvote you because of truth? Five minute google for anyone in doubt here are some takes: https://time.com/5636715/biden-1988-presidential-campaign/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/joe-biden-plagiarism/
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/03/us/politics/biden-1988-presidential-campaign.html
https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/may/07/ad-watch-fact-checking-video-about-bidens-academic/
Like I feel like I am taking crazy pills when I see such downvote ratio on something so verifiably factual and honest.
ETA I’m being downvoted now and getting complaints about sources despite there being 4 articles and advising a simple google, like just jump to snopes if you refuse to read and just go see the checkmark
Maaan that article i just couldnt read all the way through, its sooo bad. And it in no way confirmed or agreed with anything up to the point i read.
The amount of effort they put into shielding Biden from criticism puts them on par with the MAGA crowd.
In some posts I’ve quoted Biden, but attributed trump and nothing but up votes. I quote Biden and attribute Biden and nothing but down votes
They were very vocal when Melania plagiarized Michelle Obama, but crickets and down votes when it’s pointed out Biden plagiarized JFK
In some posts I’ve quoted Biden, but attributed trump and nothing but up votes. I quote Biden and attribute Biden and nothing but down votes
This is the part where you’re supposed to post the links to these posts that definitely exist.
It’s weird…I didn’t see any skimming their post history… must be a mod conspiracy
Seeing murmurs of bird flu now…just imagine an outbreak of something like bird flu under the “leadership” of dimbulb donnie, JFC.
Considering the kill rate of it, it’ll probably wipe out most of the magats.
Ah yes, there’s the Democratic party’s bullshit hubris i’ve come to know and loath.
Hillary lost Michigan, a key states due to our absolutely bullshit electoral college, by 10k votes while there were 100k votes that voted uncommitted in the recent primary.
Awfully stupid in my opinion to think you have things in the bag when you damn well know your voters aren’t cultural deologues like Republicans.
Huh. Usually when Biden totally does something in private, it’s something that centrists want progressives to think he supports.
How is it “in private” if youre re-posting that info here?
It means its info that the public needs to be served with.This is the best summary I could come up with:
WASHINGTON — Over the past several weeks, President Joe Biden has privately expressed confidence that he’s going to win the November election, according to three people familiar with his comments, in a shift from the frustration with the status of his campaign that he was venting to aides just a couple months ago.
The turnabout in Biden’s mood has been propelled in part by recent polling that shows him gaining ground against former President Donald Trump, these people said.
Indeed, complaints about Americans not giving him credit he believes he deserves for what he sees as his accomplishments, including an economy trending in a positive direction and bipartisan infrastructure legislation, have been a recurrence for much of Biden’s time in the White House.
Additionally, opposition to Israel’s war against Hamas in the Gaza Strip, which Biden has supported, continues to grow across the country, and months of efforts to reach a cease-fire deal have so far failed.
Protests against the war have escalated on college campuses, with students building encampments and facing off with law enforcement, at a time when Biden is struggling with young voters.
In addition to an average of two presidential visits to battleground states a week, part of the current phase of that plan has included spending money to beef up the Biden campaign.
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Did Netanyahu tell him the more weapons he sends the more votes he gets?
Probably told him the New York Times and all the propaganda Zionist media are behind him
Hillary was super confident…
It’s why she lost the 2016 election, she had all the confidence in the world, but that alone doesn’t make someone a good candidate
Someone that acts confident when they shouldn’t, is colloquially known as a “conman”. Because what they’re selling isn’t worth buying, you’re just buying it off their confidence in themselves, which is very rarely based on reality.
Calling Biden a conman in relation to Trump is actually hilarious. While he’s absolutely not the candidate I want, he’s still better than Trump by all metrics
They’re both con men, that’s basically the job. The president is basically a glorified cheerleader with nukes.
Meh, at least the Cheeto tells the truth as far as who he wants to kill, Biden lies out one side of his mouth, while sending bombs with the other
while sending bombs with the other
You’re going to be absolutely shocked when you find out which branch of government controls the spending in the USA.
“His hands are tied!” doesn’t work when we all saw him circumvent congress to sell Netanyahu weapons for genocide.
He also did went to bat for Netanyahu not get served with an Arrest warrant from the ICC
You’re going to be absolutely shocked who has the final say in military matters in the USA
Arms sales =/= military actions.
Typical Trump fascist symp, just showing off your ignorance at this point.
Yeah yeah yeah, every time someone says something bad about your messiah, you blame trump.
I hate the stupid motherfucker and encourage you to look back through my history and see when I became anti-Biden.
Hint: it was somewhere near the end of October when we started seeing what the Israelis were doing.
My other account is the exact same name except at kbin.social before they started having problems.
Please feel free.
Also, if Biden needed congressional authority, then why would it be possible for him to legally bypass them?
Because he can just aim for $1 under the reportable limits.
Come on bud, you should know that, it was big news the first couple of times he did it.
Biden has beat Trump once already, Hilary never did. Maybe he’s confident for a reason.
“He shouldn’t be confident because a different candidate was confident once and they lost, that means confidence is bad and meaningless”
I’m sure trump is confident too, how does that make you feel? Should he be?
I’m sure he’s pretty confident he’s in some REAL DEEP SHIT. 91 felonies, killed off a shit ton of base from his incredible job at handling covid, actively talks about being a dictator and killing his political rivals. Even his mouth breathing cult has to have their dim bulbs flickering and them thinking, “this isn’t American”.
He’s only running for office because he’s absolutely fucked if he doesn’t win. He owes half a billion in loans to russia, another half a bill for fraud. He’s toast unless he can change the laws that are going to take him out.
Someone that acts confident when they shouldn’t, is colloquially known as a “conman”.
No, that’s incorrect.
A “con man” aka Confidence Trickster is a grifter who gains your confidence in order to scam you.
Having false confidence in itself does not mean someone is necessarily a swindler. It could just be that they are delusional or misinformed.
They’re not selling a legitimate product service, the only thing rubes are being sold on, is the confidence of the salesperson.
Biden can be as confident as he wants to be, and some voters may assume that confidence means he’s competent.
But Hillary was extremely confident she’d win 2016. She shouldn’t have been.
And that over confidence directly led to her not trying as hard as she could, and voters falsely believing she had it wrapped up and they didn’t need to “hold their nose”.
Biden and voters need to be realistic about his chances to beat trump, or it will lower his chances to beat trump.
He’s either a moron or has advisors who are trying to sabotage him.
Or his internal polls are a lot better than those you read.
Yeah, Clinton had great polls too. Turns out she was utterly unelectable.
Utterly unelectable is a weird way of describing someone who got 3M more votes than the other guy.
Yeah, that electoral college sure jumped out at her suddenly, giving her only 227 years to prepare.
Do you actually have a point or are you just a dick?
Misjudging where to focus a campaign isn’t the same as being “utterly unelectable”.
She was going to run a bad campaign no matter what. Her arrogance allowed for nothing else. Her shitty political instincts are what made her unelectable.
And lost the election.
Turns out there aren’t enough “enlightened centrists” to make up for alienating the democratic base.
She lost because the electoral college is broken. That’s not the same as being “utterly unelectable”.
Wasn’t her whole schtick that she knows politics better than anyone? She really should have seen that coming and campaigned in swing states
I’m not trying to argue that she ran a great campaign.
It was Russia that tipped the scale, including by convincing traditionally democratic voters in key states to vote third party or not at all.
30 years of right-wing propaganda didn’t help either.
And the sun was in her eyes, and there was a rock in her shoe, and the dog ate her homework, and…
Would not have been possible if the candidate was someone besides an unlikable, empty corporate suit who talked down to her base. Russian activity mostly focused on getting out right-wing troglodytes.
Blame still is ultimately with Clinton and the Democratic establishment for failing to support a worthy candidate. The fact that she couldn’t even beat Donald Trump is the proof of her unelectability, regardless of interference.
She would not be anymore electable today than she was before, because the demographics have changed forever and neoliberalism is politically bankrupt. It’s a dead end.
She was by far the most qualified presidential candidate in history. You’ve fallen victim to a smear campaign, but are blissfully unaware of it.
Biden has already been elected.
