Even from people that never lived in a communist state

edit: im 17 and i hate communism

  • hash0772@sh.itjust.works
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    8 months ago

    Fucking hell.
    “one of the safest countries on earth”.
    Yeah, the country where you get beaten and tortured if you don’t agree with the State.
    China isn’t fucking communist, it’s at best an authoritarian socialist government with a LARGE class gap between the party and the people.
    The other shit you described are already standard for people living in the EU etc. Only the U.S. is too shitty to have them.
    Stop praising China just because they say they are communists.

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      8 months ago

      Really now? Which European country can you afford to rent an apartment as a single person making minimum wage in a city center? Which European country mandates worker democracy in all public and private companies? Which European country can I take a 500+kmph train hundreds of miles for under $20? No ones getting beaten or tortured for not agreeing with the state, maybe quit slurping down propaganda. People are being beaten and arrested in multiple European countries and the US as we speak for standing up for Palestine against their governments. China has been on the right side of the Palestinian occupation for literally 5+ decades, even back when they were extremely poor. China doesn’t even have militarized police on the level of Germany, France, or especially the US.

      Nearly all poverty alleviation in the 21st century has happened in China, while nearly all European countries and the US have seen a resurgence in poverty. 800 million people were brought out of extreme poverty with guaranteed housing, food, medical care, electricity, clothing and water.

      China is so safe shop owners will leave their goods outside with their WeChat QR code when they close and people will buy on the honor system, in 20 million person cities. Their police kill an average of 2 people a year, in a country of 1.4 billion people. hundreds of western women have talked about how safe they feel there, including wandering around in the middle of the night alone in the largest cities in the world.

      You’ve never been, clearly, or you wouldn’t hold such nonsensical views of it.

      No state is communist, but China is run by the communist party and is in the process of the development of socialism. It continually improves the material reality for its citizens, something most countries have long since forgotten how to do. A still developing country has higher homeownership rates than any western country, lower violent crime rates, higher access to needed technologies like electrification and electric cars, and produces nearly half of all the world’s clean energy.

      It’s not perfect, and it’s still developing, but it’s doing a much better job at taking care of its people than any other country I’ve ever been to.