Pretty fucking depressing that the anti fascism vote is also the keep supporting genocide vote. It’s a trolley problem but one track only has foreigners tied to it so we’re supposed to cheer for that option I guess
One track has Palestinians tied to it, the other track has more Palestinians tied to it, Ukrainians and probably others tied to it, AND American minorities by the bushel.
If you’re looking for a point in history when there wasn’t someone getting hit by the trolley, you’ll be looking a while. We have to find the choice that is most achievable and least damaging.
One track has Palestinians tied to it, the other track has more Palestinians tied to it, Ukrainians and probably others tied to it, AND American minorities by the bushel.
Yeah wooooo go Biden so proud 🤣 vote democrat, we will probably be responsible for less death and suffering. New slogan right there. “SLIGHTLY! LESS! DEATH!”
It’s a complicated situation though golly who knows how to fix this problem
We have to find the choice that is most achievable and least damaging.
The smart people know that. Only problem is that not all of the people are smart and they all have the same voting power
I’m not saying it’s a bad decision given the situation. I’m saying the situation is dog shit and perhaps will come back to bite us in the ass when “slightly less death!” isn’t the biggest motivation to get out and vote.
I would be more sympathetic to your point if Biden couldn’t stop supporting this immediately with relative ease. Most voters are against what Israel is doing and especially democrats. It’s not like it would hurt his election chances. It’s not like the protests this has inspired are a good look anyway.
Americans Divided Over U.S. Support for Israel and the Palestinians
Do you think the United States supports [Israel/the Palestinians] too much, about the right amount or too little?
% Too much% Right amount% Too little% No opinion
U.S. support for Israel
U.S. adults
36
38
24
Republicans
26
37
37
Independents
40
36
22
Democrats
40
43
15
Most Americans, including most Democrats, think that the current level of support for Israel is either correct or too little.
Approval of Israel’s military action is separate from approval for the current US support for Israel, as the numbers compared from November and March (from Gallup, in your poll) show (compared to the numbers, also from Gallup, in the poll I cited). 63% of Democrats in November disapproved of Israel’s military action, yet, in December, 58% of Democrats still believed that US support for Israel was either appropriate or not enough. Again, both of those numbers, from the poll you cited and the one I did, are both from Gallup.
Man, if your argument is that people are fucking insane and don’t pay enough attention to matters of civic importance, I’m onboard. But if your argument is that this is an easy win for Biden that he’s just not taking, I don’t think the evidence backs that up, as much as I wish it did.
You’re seriously casting “stop supporting genocide” as a pipe dream for people with unrealistic expectations.
Congratulations. You’ve ‘stopped supporting genocide’ by witholding your vote for mean ol’ Biden. That’ll show him!
The trolley now goes down the Trump rail, and crushes even more Palestinians, in addition to Ukrainians, American minorities, and god knows who else.
Yeah, gonna go ahead and say that “CORNEL WEST COMES OUT OF THE DRESSING ROOM WITH A STEEL CHAIR!” or whatever the red herring candidate du jour is is a fucking pipe dream.
So your argument, then, is that you will be withholding your “support for genocide”, by doing exactly what everyone who is “supporting genocide” is doing.
Sounds like I should do what’s best to send a message to the Democrats then, since people are going to die either way and there is no winning with this single vote. Thanks!
“People are going to die either way, so I might as well enable the worse choice!” - Voter in Weimar Germany
Nice work, good job on murdering as many minorities as you can because… people are going to die anyway, so it may as well be as many as possible?
And fascist simps like you wonder why you’re disdained by so many.
“And punish the party” by… giving power to fascists?
You… you think that the electoral victory of the far-right will push the overton window… left?
Are you dumb, or just pretending to be?
(I am one of the minorities that will be targeted by a GOP admin, btw)
Congrats, we’ll be in line in the concentration camps together. I’m sure you’ll be loudly crying out “AT LEAST I DIDN’T VOTE FOR THE DEMONRATS” as the showers turn on for us.
When dumb assholes continue to say dumb shit, and their username happens to imply that their brain is somewhere other than in their cranium; it simply checks out. There’s no high ground. My username could be “shit-shingles” and it wouldn’t be implicit that my brain is elsewhere… “brain_in_a_box” on the other hand…
Sure, you don’t have to do it if you don’t mind fascism and not getting to vote ever again.
As for everyone who ISN’T a fascism enabler, though? Bit of a moral imperative.
Pretty fucking depressing that the anti fascism vote is also the keep supporting genocide vote. It’s a trolley problem but one track only has foreigners tied to it so we’re supposed to cheer for that option I guess
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One track has Palestinians tied to it, the other track has more Palestinians tied to it, Ukrainians and probably others tied to it, AND American minorities by the bushel.
If you’re looking for a point in history when there wasn’t someone getting hit by the trolley, you’ll be looking a while. We have to find the choice that is most achievable and least damaging.
Yeah wooooo go Biden so proud 🤣 vote democrat, we will probably be responsible for less death and suffering. New slogan right there. “SLIGHTLY! LESS! DEATH!”
It’s a complicated situation though golly who knows how to fix this problem
The smart people know that. Only problem is that not all of the people are smart and they all have the same voting power
That’s the slogan for every positive action throughout human history. We don’t have the luxury of choices which hurt no one on the societal scale.
I’m not saying it’s a bad decision given the situation. I’m saying the situation is dog shit and perhaps will come back to bite us in the ass when “slightly less death!” isn’t the biggest motivation to get out and vote.
I would be more sympathetic to your point if Biden couldn’t stop supporting this immediately with relative ease. Most voters are against what Israel is doing and especially democrats. It’s not like it would hurt his election chances. It’s not like the protests this has inspired are a good look anyway.
That’s literally not true though.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/548084/americans-divided-involvement-middle-east.aspx
Americans Divided Over U.S. Support for Israel and the Palestinians Do you think the United States supports [Israel/the Palestinians] too much, about the right amount or too little? % Too much% Right amount% Too little% No opinion U.S. support for Israel U.S. adults 36 38 24 Republicans 26 37 37 Independents 40 36 22 Democrats 40 43 15
Most Americans, including most Democrats, think that the current level of support for Israel is either correct or too little.
More recent poll:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/642695/majority-disapprove-israeli-action-gaza.aspx
Overall 55% disapprove of Israel’s actions and only 36% approve, plus
And
Approval of Israel’s military action is separate from approval for the current US support for Israel, as the numbers compared from November and March (from Gallup, in your poll) show (compared to the numbers, also from Gallup, in the poll I cited). 63% of Democrats in November disapproved of Israel’s military action, yet, in December, 58% of Democrats still believed that US support for Israel was either appropriate or not enough. Again, both of those numbers, from the poll you cited and the one I did, are both from Gallup.
Man, if your argument is that people are fucking insane and don’t pay enough attention to matters of civic importance, I’m onboard. But if your argument is that this is an easy win for Biden that he’s just not taking, I don’t think the evidence backs that up, as much as I wish it did.
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Lmao… how did you infer that out of referencing Gallup poll results? Genuinely curious…
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“It’s the way we’ve always done it” isn’t a justification for continuing.
Feel free to get back to me when you develop your magic “Everyone wins and no one is hurt” formula for actions on a societal scale.
It doesn’t have to be “everyone wins and no one gets hurt” in order to be better than supporting genocide.
You’re seriously casting “stop supporting genocide” as a pipe dream for people with unrealistic expectations.
Congratulations. You’ve ‘stopped supporting genocide’ by witholding your vote for mean ol’ Biden. That’ll show him!
The trolley now goes down the Trump rail, and crushes even more Palestinians, in addition to Ukrainians, American minorities, and god knows who else.
Yeah, gonna go ahead and say that “CORNEL WEST COMES OUT OF THE DRESSING ROOM WITH A STEEL CHAIR!” or whatever the red herring candidate du jour is is a fucking pipe dream.
I’m still voting for Biden, just like I was last time you made this baseless accusation.
So your argument, then, is that you will be withholding your “support for genocide”, by doing exactly what everyone who is “supporting genocide” is doing.
Wonderful. Glad we could clear that up.
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“People are going to die either way, so I might as well enable the worse choice!” - Voter in Weimar Germany
Nice work, good job on murdering as many minorities as you can because… people are going to die anyway, so it may as well be as many as possible?
And fascist simps like you wonder why you’re disdained by so many.
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Killing as many minorities as possible and ushering in fascism is the best long-term effect in your mind?
Yeah, that tracks. You keep simping for fascism, bud.
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“And punish the party” by… giving power to fascists?
You… you think that the electoral victory of the far-right will push the overton window… left?
Are you dumb, or just pretending to be?
Congrats, we’ll be in line in the concentration camps together. I’m sure you’ll be loudly crying out “AT LEAST I DIDN’T VOTE FOR THE DEMONRATS” as the showers turn on for us.
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Fucking lmao.
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::checks user name::
Oh, ok… that explains it.
I don’t really see you as being in a position to take a high ground on the basis of usernames.
When dumb assholes continue to say dumb shit, and their username happens to imply that their brain is somewhere other than in their cranium; it simply checks out. There’s no high ground. My username could be “shit-shingles” and it wouldn’t be implicit that my brain is elsewhere… “brain_in_a_box” on the other hand…
“Standards for thee and none for me” is all I’m taking from this.
Have a great day.
Fair enough. My screen name is that of a fictional character I’m working on.
Have a good one.