• taanegl@lemmy.world
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    Socially conservative fucking liberal, “classical” liberal, emperialstic liberal, yee olde British liberal, Yee olde aristocrats wanting to go solo and cut out the monarchy and clergy liberal, privatise everything to a set of monopolies, duopolies, triopolies liberal, fostering markets that exploit slavery liberals, push war on drugs and McCarthyism liberals.

    FUCKING LIBERALS

    Right wing. Not left wing. Liberalism was always, always right wing. Social democrats too. Same shit. Different branches. UK liberals, Nordic liberals, German liberals, Spain liberals, EU liberals, democrats and republican liberals.

    FUCKING LIBERALS

    The predominant feature of liberal democracies? Fucking liberals. Nice word, isn’t it? Shame if it would be misleading packaging and be about as liberating as a gimp cage.

    Signed, an ex-social democrat.

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      McCarthyism

      Oh, American. Not surprised.

      Is everyone a liberal to you? Right wing, left wing, neither?

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        No, Nordic - so like one out of many, many times in your life, you are wrong.

        But it also begs the question: you believe there was no cold war in Europe, or that Europeans didn’t jump on the same bandwagon? Like Europe hasn’t been complicit in the embargos and sanctions put in Latin-America? Why don’t we just make a EU-Latin American trading agreement then, hmm? Answer me that. “Oh but the Nordics are socialist” - uh, okay. If you say so. I mean it must obviously be true, because Americans believe it.

        Make no mistake, liberalism is a geo-political grift, it started in Europe (we are literally the OG’s), as they all follow the same non-governmental bodies and institutions.

        A liberal, is a liberal, is a liberal. Wether or not you understand what “liberalism” is, the various parties under that umbrella, why it has departed from liberal philosophy, and why even word in it self is abused and just a brand at this point is not my responsibility.

        Let me just repeat.

        liberalism is right-wing

        liberalism is right-wing

        liberalism is right-wing

        liberalism is right-wing

        The only people on the right who think that it’s left wing are actual nationalists and fascists, no matter what they say. People biting on to that rhetoric and believing it? Absolute mindrot.

        “But what about John Locke?”

        Bitch, did I stutter?

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          I’m not even going to bother engaging. You put so many words in my mouth it’s ridiculous.

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            Well I am.

            You had no argument whatsoever, went into name calling me as a yankie to justify some non existent point and you’re probably just smirking and chuckling under your voice now, probably because you’re a pretentious, elitist, institutionalist, braindead liberal - so it’s the other way around.

            Engaging with you is a waste of time.

            I just want people to read it for future reference, you know?

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              Didn’t call you a “yankie” (McCarthyism is an American concept who like to have their own words for things which is why I mentioned, well, America).

              Not smirking, you’re actually quite frustrating.

              Pretentious, elitist, institutionalist, braindead liberal. Thanks for that. (I am absolutely left-wing).

              See what I mean by putting words in my mouth? You managed it 3 times in a few sentences just there.

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                Bro, you’re just ignorant and also a hypocrite. You’re still putting words into my mouth, whereas I am appraising your attitude. I know you don’t know the difference.

                First of all, the entirety of Russia was alienated from Europe because of McCarthyism. Even though Europe has a lot of socialist parties, going that route would mean an instant dismissal from certain trade deals when sanctions and embargos hit you in the face. So Europe is run by neo-liberals - consistently. The same leaders who voted to go into Afghanistan, the same leaders who voted to go into Iraq, and that last thing, surely that was just Americans, right?

                Check your political map. You’re ignoring about 6 decades of McCarthyism in geo-political form. You’re just naive enough to not think US imperialism isn’t a matter of soft power.

                And also, if you’re left wing, you’re not liberal. “Liberal” is a political marketing buzzword. “Liberalisation” is about privatisation, like Milet is doing.

                So I don’t know why the heck you’re defending liberals when in fact they have run the world ragged.

                Seems like you’re an abused spouse or something.

                Anyways, shake the conditioning and brain rot, and then get back to me.

                If you’re just here to “own” and dominate? That’s very liberal of you.

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                  Pal, I just addressed what you said to me. That’s not putting words in your mouth.

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                    You called me an American…

                    Last attempt.

                    Ronald Reagen and Margaret Thatcher were liberals.

                    True or false.

                    EDIT: screw you and your alt, you brainwashed dimwit.