• 乇ㄥ乇¢ㄒ尺ㄖ@infosec.pubOP
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      You shouldn’t… If you already live in a world free from religion… Isn’t it Entertaining to hear why people left or joined a cult ?

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    I don’t really think about Russell Brand, but he’s a grifter so it’s most likely part of some new grift he’s got cooking.

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        His statements appear to be a by-the-book representation of born-again mentality. In my own experience with people doing this, it’s a last ditch response to, “people think I’ve become messed up and no longer being a decent human, so I’m doing this to prove I’m not messed up.”

        This is only effective as long as they make maneuvers to avoid being “messed up”. The statements he made in his video can only be taken as far as his practices afterwards. Does he apologize? Does he atone? Does anything happen besides “I dunked myself in water which means Jesus and I love each other” which is only the thinnest veil of non-action that results in positive feedback from the largest body of the public I can reach with one video. What do YOU think about his statements? Are you an atheist or are you baiting?

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          people doing this, it’s a last ditch response to, “people think I’ve become messed up and no longer being a decent human, so I’m doing this to prove I’m not messed up.”

          to me, it seemed like a coping mechanism, like isn’t it why people turn to religion in the first place, to cope…

          from the largest body of the public

          what do you mean?

          What do YOU think about his statements?

          I delayed replying to your comment so I don’t influence others, but seeing the amount of negativity that’s blamed on Russell Brand ( it was attributed to me really ), take a look at the other comments to see how insufficient their reasoning skills are, no wonder Russell gets to say something like : Religion is spreading…

          Now to what I think: first of all, I’m not an ex-Christian, I’m an exmuslim, so I don’t have experience in debunking christianity…

          1. someone said he should have started an onlyfans before converted, that’s how you get the most out of it…lol

          2. He said something about Human connections are sometimes not enough, and I remember seeing a research paper that said : not believing in a higher power gives athiests stronger human bounding, like stronger relationships… Etc…

          3. Said that Religion is spreading, especially amongst younger people, I don’t know about the west so I can’t comment on that, but in this part of the world, I can tell you that that statement is FALSE, atheism is spreading like wildfire, however the birth rate is high so… It evens out the numbers… ( I guess )

          4. he seem to confuse being spiritual with being religious, I don’t know about you, but I don’t like it when religious people hijack words like, spirituality, believe… etc… there’s no rule that says atheists can’t be spiritual, or they don’t hold any belief

          5. I’m not sure about this one, did he just do: “whataboutism” when he said look at the Ukraine Vs Russia war, is it religious or secular…

          6. said he can debunk the allegations and crimes of the church throughout history, but my question is… why do you want to be associated with this kind of movement shall we say, if you knew they don’t have the best reputation? I get it gives you a sense of unity and that you’re part of something bigger, but still… It feels off

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      man, being accused of rape really messes up your reputation, no wonder I see so many men saying they’re uncomfortable around women…

      Can you debunk his Christianity without resorting to such cheap shots ? That would be impressive and surprising…

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        Are you suggesting the four women are lying? I don’t care to “debunk” anything. It’s sufficient for me to know that he’s a sex pest and a Christian. Like peanut butter and jelly.

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          Are you suggesting the four women are lying?

          NO, I’m saying don’t be superficial and believe what everyone says just because they said it, these are not facts yet

          It’s sufficient for me to know that he’s a sex pest and a Christian.

          Ahh, the famous personal attack fallacy stikes again, I’ll gave you an example

          Let’s say a person named Elizabeth is a deer hunter, you see her take her rifle and go deer hunting every couple of weeks, then you say something like : she cannot possibly support gun control laws…

          And that’s a flawed reasoning, being a hunter is used as a negative characteristic to make a conclusion which could be very well untrue, Elizabeth could support many gun control laws while owning a rifle.

          Let’s go back to Russell, you’re dismissing anything he says because he’s “Christian and sex pest”… The problem here is that your conclusion came from a characterization that has nothing to do with arguments he made or the real stance he holds… Which is all there in the video

          UNLESS…

          you have some … let’s say aggressive opinions against christians, that you’re willing to dismiss anything they say, and favor anyone who oppose them instead regardless whether their claim is true or false…

          which one is it ?

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    I think his reasoning is entirely fabricated, and in truth he hopes it will distract suckers from his recent sexual assault allegations. Evidently he’s had some success if you’re posting about it, imo.

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      I think his reasoning is entirely fabricated

      That’s a fair belief, personally I think it’s hard for it be for this reason, because the accusations happened months ago, why didn’t he acted like this back then ? Key word for me here : Actor… But I just don’t like to assume the worst in people…

      Evidently he’s had some success if you’re posting about it

      Maybe… But I’m posting this because of the “why” in the title, it just got me interested in hearing an opinion other than my own… that’s why I don’t wanna debunk all the things he said…

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    Its in the same realm as everyone else who wants to be baptized…they have some ‘awakening’ and find some type of ritual to revel in it, pull things together to intensify the reveling and justification of their ‘awakening’ and those things are false comparisons(his comparision of religious violence and ‘secular violence’), complaints about the modern world, past mistakes. Also since he is an addict he’s switching to another addiction. Not sure what more I can say?

    I also find it to be incredibly narcssicistic. It is a self-proclamation from a new convert to make a video about converting 24 hours after his conversion…it means nothing to me in any way shape or form, especially from someone who has a large platform.

    I’m not sure if I’m supposed to have anything beyond that about some stranger who has no relevance in my life. I was once a Christian for over a decade so the over all topic I have strong opinions towards but that video was nothing different from what I experienced in the modern church decades ago now. The only difference is irrelevant details, character names and the timeline. Replace Russell Brand with John Doe and you can copy and paste my response.