• tsonfeir@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    Eventually they will realize that a major city in the desert is a bad idea.

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      There is a reason it is named Phoenix. That valley has been settled and abandoned several times throughout history.

      The only reason it has survived this time is through the power of air conditioning.

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        2 months ago

        Horse shit.

        It was never abandoned. The valley was steadily habitated for thousands of years by a number of tribes before American settlers forces the Yaqui from the land.

        None of them had air conditioning, and they thrived until a foreign invader took their land by force.

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          They were also nomadic, and left when it got too dry/hot. Which goes to show they were a lot smarter than most people living there now.

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          I don’t know the history here, but wouldn’t a nomadic people that leave when the heat / drought gets bad, still count as “abandoning”, in a sense? Or were they more or less a permanent settlement?

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            To me, “abandonment” means they have no plans to return. It sounds like what they did was more similar to what retirees do with winter homes in Florida/Arizona and summer homes in the midwest/northeast.

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              Sure, but the context was that one person asserted that Pheonix was a terrible place to place to have a permanent settlement because of heat and drought, and someone else refuted with an “Ackchyually” style response.

              If the native people relocated regularly to avoid heat and drought, then that strengthens the first assertion that it’s a bad place to support a permanent population.

              But again, I don’t know the actual habits of these specific natives. Maybe they weren’t nomadic and found ways to survive where Pheonix now stands. I asked because I’m curious to the history.