• ZetaLightning94@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    With how china keeps implanting everything with spyware, I agree to keep them away from the heavy tech incorporated cars. Really wish we could transition away from using chinese shit

    • Hildegarde@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      All auto manufacturers put spyware in their cars now. This isn’t a china problem, this is an everyone problem. We need anti-spyware laws that apply to everyone.

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      7 months ago

      The Tariff is actually against Steel and Aluminium heavily subsidized by the CCP and flooding the market. At no point in Biden’s speech did he talk about EVs or electronics.

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      7 months ago

      Oh? More spyware than GM selling your data to your insurance company? More spyware than all of the stuff your smartphone collects?

      It’s absolutely a bad faith argument to say we can’t have Chinese cars because they conduct industry standard data scraping.

      • CriticalMiss@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        The whataboutism doesn’t help. It’s a wrong practice regardless of nationality. But since the house and senate is bought by the corporations, at the very least ban those who you can.

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          7 months ago

          It’s not a whataboutism when that’s the other choice. This isn’t out of left field. I can buy Chinese data scraping, Japanese data scraping, Korean data scraping, German data scraping, or American data scraping.

          Right now Germany actually wins that contest because GDPR just might have an impact.

          A whataboutism would be me talking about American labor practices in farming. Not great, but also not relevant.

          • Jojo, Lady of the West@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            7 months ago

            I agree. If this were actually addressing the problem in question (bad faith actors harvesting data) then sure, but it isn’t really because the other options are still suffering from the same problem. If anything, this entire discussion is a whataboutism to avoid talking about how more electric cars lets us phase out the ice ones.

            • Maggoty@lemmy.world
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              7 months ago

              I wasn’t going to go there because projection is, unfortunately, very effective at making the other party look immature when they correctly call you on it. But yes the entire discussion of data harvesting is a whataboutism. It’s not relevant unless someone stops doing it.