• Chaotic Entropy
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    With respect, that’s bullshit. Common sense gun reform is on the table almost monthly, after every single mass shooting pretty much… which happen with great regularity. The simplest of measures is treated like a slippery slope to full bans and so nothing at all is allowed to progress. From the outside looking in, a nationwide firearms ban is a bogeyman used to prevent anything happening at all.

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      The simplest of measures is treated like a slippery slope to full bans

      Is it not a first step leading to full bans? Look at this very thread.

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        Public opinion does not equal policy, and what you’re effectively saying is that there is no negotiation possible. Moving an inch could lose you a foot, so no movement is possible.

        Don’t pretend that it is both sides who refuse to “negotiate”, when one side views any change at all as unacceptable compromise.

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          Moving an inch could lose you a foot, so no movement is possible.

          I mean, this is a succinct description. You’re saying it as a criticism, but it makes perfect sense.

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            Great. So everyone will just continue dying or being in fear of dying in mass shootings, regular shootings, and more. This will continue for the rest of time because one side is scared of making a positive change to the situation.

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                Unwilling due to their fear. Of their donors, of their electorate, of losing control. Pick your poison.

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                  7 months ago

                  The electorate is unwilling. GOP Representatives are actually representing the wishes of their constituents on this one.

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                    7 months ago

                    A small subset of the electorate sure, made fearful… by grifters, agenda led news, and arms manufacturers who want to sell them guns.

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        7 months ago

        there’s already bans on military hardware sales to civilians. Explain why we should exclude bans on anti aircraft guns from slippery slope hypotheticals

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          Bringing up bans on military hardware actually supports the slippery slope argument very strongly. You’re already thinking about bans.

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        No. Same as relaxing gun laws is not the first step leading to no gun laws. That logic is idiotic.

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            “Lots of people” are also calling for no gun laws. Anecdotes don’t mean shit. Come back when you have some actual numbers on people wanting a full ban and let’s see how close to a majority that is.