Two decades of U.S. policy appear to be rooted in a mistaken understanding of what happened that day. archive

  • RubberDuck@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Or… one is bad and the other one is way worse.

    Anyway this just means that a straight B-line for no longer being fossil fuel dependent is just more important.

    If we can then combine that by sourcing the oil from countries that do not perform stonings and public executions in stadiums, of call it a win.

    Keep in mind that not 50 years ago, we had an oil crisis that showed how incredibly depended we where, and the EU learned the hard way what energy dependence on Russia meant.

    Solar, Wind and a hydro/Geothermal/nuclear baseload with at least 60 months of stored fission material would be my hope.

    • Monument@lemmy.sdf.org
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      Or… one is bad and the other one is way worse.

      The thing that always amuses me about this is that Iran was a burgeoning liberal democracy until the CIA and MI6 toppled it in 1953, installing a previously overthrown autocrat (overthrown by said forces of democracy), who ruled until 1979, when he was overthrown by religious hard liners, who really only had mass support because the autocrat was too authoritarian.

      And the reason the U.S. and Britain overthrew their democracy? They nationalized their oil industry to give profits back to their people, which entailed taking over refineries and wells ‘owned’ by British Petroleum.
      The U.S. created their own boogeyman in the area because they wanted to give a corporation near-free access to Iran’s oil. Which in turn lead to the oil crisis and instability in the region.
      The U.S. has really got to stop trying to put out fires while covered in crude oil.

      • RubberDuck@lemmy.world
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        “Amusing” and yeah the geopolitics of the 50’s and 60’s. The gift that keeps on giving. Especially the interventions done in name of big corporations are wonderful examples of nightmares that just don’t end.

    • arymandias@feddit.de
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      100% agree, no longer being oil dependent would make the middle east a saver place (as well as having many other advantages).

      But even the green revolution needs cheap labor, recourses, and rare-earth metals. Countries that do not want to play game and want to nationalize key industries for instance, will be coerced financially or militarily by greater powers (be it the West, China, or Russia).

      So the idea of one country being worse than the other is not really relevant and moreover a known strategy for getting war support. I am happy that I don’t live in Iran or Saudi Arabia, but escalating conflict with either of them will not improve anybody’s life. Look at Syria or Libya.