• volvoxvsmarla @lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    At this point I really am unsure whether you are just trolling since this is not rocket science.

    “Directly impacts” or “contributes to” would be more fitting but weren’t you the one talking about semantics?

    if there are three blue pigs in the world, and i kill all three and send them to the butcher shop, when someone buys that pork or bacon or ham, how do we kill more blue pigs? it’s impossible. so we can see that even if people lack free will and there is some economic theory that actually showed some causal link where consumption causes production (which is impossible), then we can see that consumption still can’t actually cause later production in even this one case, but probably many others.

    This is an absolutely unfitting hypothetical because you just rotted out that animal. Have you seen Futurama? The episode about popplers would be more fitting. But ok, I’ll roll with the pigs.

    You discovered an island with 10 grown blue pigs. You killed two and brought the meat home. You are trying to sell it. Three things can happen.

    1. People are disgusted and don’t buy it from you.
    2. People buy it from you and give you feedback that they hated it and would not buy it again.
    3. People buy it and give you feedback that it’s amazing and they want more of it.

    So far, two animals have died. In which of the three scenarios do you think more animals will be killed in the future?

    • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      6 months ago

      At this point I really am unsure whether you are just trolling since this is not rocket science.

      this is an appeal to ridicule. youre right that it’s not rocket science though: that is provable.

    • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      6 months ago

      it’s not an analogy. it’s a hypothetical. and in my hypothetical you can see that your proposed causation falls apart. even in your amended version, when do i lose free will?

        • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          6 months ago

          so long as i can still choose my own actions, i can’t say that other people’s reactions caused me to act in any way.

          • volvoxvsmarla @lemm.ee
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            6 months ago

            Ok, listen, don’t get it the wrong way, but I think we should stop this back and forth. I’m completely lost in what you are trying to argue here and what your actual point is. No offense, I just think we completely miss each other in our logic. Because I am sure you are a smart person but I don’t see how any of this is connected to my first comment, any of my theses, and to me we are just arguing over some semantics and who’s right over a question that doesn’t exist. So I call it quits here. I’m on vacation as of today and this is getting exhausting for no good reason or goal.