• mPony@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    this still smells of propaganda, like it’s woven through the whole thing. “The American worker is making peace with a longer ride”.
    and yet the very first example they provide is someone who works from home twice a week.

    I’ll tell you this: the commute is even better when you work from home. WFH means less carbon emissions, less time wasted in traffic, and less time literally putting your life at risk from vehicle collisions.

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      As someone that loves going into an office, I wish they let people who didn’t stay at home.

      I miss the aspect of the pandemic where people were freer to stay home if they chose, and the roads were so much emptier. It’s better for people to work how they’d like to, it’s better for me trying not to spend an hour commuting, and it’s better for the Earth to have fewer people burning carbon twice a day.

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      I almost got into a pileup on the way to work this morning. I hate commuting

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      WFH means less carbon emissions, less time wasted in traffic, and less time literally putting your life at risk from vehicle collisions.

      It speaks volumes that all of these problems are car-related. The whole push for WFH is a massive condemnation of how badly people actually feel about the effects of the car-oriented development that the U.S has been spending so much time championing.

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        a) what you say is true b) these car-related issues affect other countries just as much : I’m Canadian. c) there are other things that WFH improves as well, but they are far enough behind the car-related problems that they can seem petty by comparison. They aren’t petty at all, but they do make a convenient foil for those who argue against WFH.

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        5 months ago

        Even if I lived across the street from my office, I would still prefer to work from my home.

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      6 months ago

      Hey! That sounds like pure communism! You go to work where the overseer can keep an eye on you and your productivity!

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      Lol I have no reason to be in the office for my job. My company started forcing people back in January. I take the train in. It takes me 2.5 one way, 5 hours total. Doesn’t make any fucking sense that I have to make the journey, and it makes no fucking sense that the train ride takes an hour and 45 minutes

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          Not to mention it’s just exhausting spending 5 hours of your day in commute

          That’s about 15 hours a week I could use to work and to go out with my dog, work out, actually do work more efficiently with two screens, and just idk spend some time with friends

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            Do you only work 3 days a week or are you subtracting your hour long fault commutes?

            OP spend over one full day a week commuting. Gag worthy

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              I work 5 days a week but have to go in 3 now so just counted those

              The other two I still wfh

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      If there only were trains, or trams, or busses. In many areas, public transport consists of “the morning bus” and “the afternoon bus”.

      And not everyone can WFH. Actually, most people with lower pay grades can’t, so they still have to be present whereever they work.

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        but it’s kinda hard to mop the floors where I work from home.

        Yeah, the “everyone should work from home” factions seems to forget those of us whose work requires us being able to touch the things we’re working on.

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    Same in Canada, and I have not moved, I live ~12 miles (~20km) of my working place, 90% highway. Early 2000s it took 30 minutes or less, early 10s ~40 minutes, 2019 before pandemic it was already a good 45+ minutes. 2023+ it is more than one hour (forth, and 1h back).

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    I worked in Manhattan and had coworkers who lived in Pennsylvania. Two hours each way. A story I heard was that a bus company recruited drivers who would get up at 4am, pick up passengers, drive to the city, and then go to another job. 6 pm they get in the bush and drive home.

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      That doesn’t make much sense. What happened to the bus in the middle of the day?

      Parking in Downtown Manhattan can be rented out for $30 - $50 per hour, maybe $80 all day. And that’s a car-sized space. Since a bus is two or three of those, it would make no sense to just waste $240+ on an unused bus.

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        Before Hudson Yards went up that space was mostly empty. I’ve also seen lines of buses parked under the FDR downtown.

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      If it’s two minutes do you need to be driving? That seems like a walk or bike

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          I drop off kids and pick them up every day. By bike. There’s really no excuse for driving in a city.

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            I mean there are plenty of reasons. Some seasons it rains everyday here. Get off your high bike.

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              I bike every day, rain or snow. It gets to -20C in Montreal during the winter. You just need to dress right.

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                Ok but you said “there’s no excuse for driving in a city”. There are a million excuses. You’re obviously not disabled, but many people are. You’re obviously younger, but many people are older. You are obviously okay with the cold. Many people are not.

                Why don’t you try imagining biking to work in 50°C heat, with a bad knee and a migraine? Plus asthma or anxiety, your choice. Also, put your kid and some groceries on the bike and see how easy it is.

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                  It’s a figure of speech. Obviously if you have a physical disability or a mental block that is hard to overcome, I don’t fault them for it.

                  However if they are able but choose to be stuck in traffic instead while I zip by with my children singing in the chariot, that’s on them.

                  OP was saying they have a horrible two minute drive to their work while they also have a walk into the opposite direction for their kid. Sounds like they can do it.

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      6 months ago

      I hope immigrants sneak in and move your house a few inches further from your work every day

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        That explains the noises at night! If they could just shore up our one sagging foundation corner in the back while they’re at it, that’d be great. After they do some serious manual labor in the summer sun for me, then they can go back to their country until I need more work done. Oh! Actually, no, we need them to do the harvest. And there’s this thing with some construction… shit. It turns out that hard workers are actually really needed everywhere and we shouldn’t be such xenophobic/racist assholes all the time.

        I do actually need the foundation looked at, though but I can’t afford it despite having a pretty decent and high experience required job. All the money is going to billionaires instead. Strange that those same billionaires are funding lots of media telling me to be afraid of people all the time… no relation to the whole immigration thing, I’m sure.